Have you told Mr Trump we are all going to die down here?

I believe it belongs in Religion since GW is a religion.

 

What exactly is it that you think the president can do? You just said a prayer. You can't control the climate - no one can.

 

I believe you're trolling.

 

Global warming 'alarmism' is actually a religion that pulls from a real scientific concept and adds its own concepts and exaggerates the original theory.

 

Citation?

 

Global warming cannot be refuted. Its just a matter of what impact humans have on the rate of warming. How much are we speeding things up? Are we also delaying the next ice age?

Even if we cannot make a significant difference in global warming, I feel that reducing pollutants in the air we breath is the way to go.

 

Just, review the 'scientific method' and the importance of testing and prediction.
Then compare alarmism with what you have learned.

 

Let me tell you a story. Once there was the garden of ''Eden'' , nothing mattered in the garden of ''Eden'' thy fruits were the result of thy labour. Money , gold, diamonds had no value. One day while out exploring the world beyond Eden, citizen X found something shiny. He ran back to Eden to show off their find, convinced of it's uniqueness citizen X convinced the population it had value, subjected them to material beliefs. These beliefs remain today from the subjectivity of citizen X.
Now only if we could go back in time and tell citizen X that gold is just made of atoms and it has no other value but the value put on it by the practitioner.
It is insanity to say gold is worth anything, it isn't even any good as a construction material being quite a soft metal. The world does the same thing with art, antiques ( which is mostly tatty old junk) and lots of other things. The world population is already technically insane.
Damn it now you got me started , the world is living a lie , they live a false reality and make believe that everything is just ok. They have their entire thinking of certain things, backwards.

Added- ok we are in the science section of the forum, mental health is a part of science process.
Let us start by looking at pets, how can politicians sit there and let people have pets before considering the homeless?

Only mentally unstable people could allow this to happen.

We will bring the animals from outdoors and they can live indoors, some people from indoors, we will just put outdoors. Completely insane.

 

We're discussing generalities, not specifics. You may make more than a doctor, but that has no bearing on whether doctors, in general, are more valued than farmers, in general.

It's discouraging that you don't understand how the marketplace works. Labor is valued by the price it will bring. There's no shame in being a farmer or ditch digger, but those honest occupations won't command as high a price as a doctor or airline pilot.

As for soldiers, they're not for hire so they're not part of the marketplace. They're a special category in that they volunteer to protect our nation. They're given a nominal paycheck, but it's nowhere near enough to cover the risk they're taking and the service they're providing.

Who said it did? What makes a difference is how highly a farmer's services are valued versus that of a doctor's.

You decide for yourself how much of a person you are, that's pretty basic. The market decides how much to value your services versus other professions. If your self-worth depends on how much you're paid, that can be discouraging.

People are born with equal potential. What they do in life adds to their value or takes it away. Labels do nothing more than categorize people.

 

Gold can be worked into beautiful pieces of art and jewelry. People value the artwork and will pay highly because if the rarity of gold and because of the skill of the goldsmith.

So you've decided that what you think is valueless is actually that, and thus anyone who disagrees with you is insane. Ohhhhkayyyyy.

 

I'm quite familiar with the process.
Have a nice day.

 

There is a very nice homeless guy that hangs out by Whole Foods market. When can he move in with you? I would take him in, but politicians let me have dogs, so I can't.

 

Carry the water across the desert or the nice shiny piece of ''art'' across the desert? I rest my case

 

I am not sure if America has dog shelters? I am also quite sure the homeless don't wear diamond collars.

try this from 2015:

''If the SLS is able to meet the $500 million target, it would end up being cheaper to fly than the space shuttle. The shuttle program cost about $209 billion (in2010 dollars) over its lifetime and made a total of 135 flights, yielding an average cost per launch of more than $1.5 billion.12 Sep 2012''



It is now 2015, is it really acceptable that our fellow human beings are still in situations of living in states of squalor ?

Is it acceptable that these people are treated worse than mistreated dogs?



(The above picture is of a dog rescued in Puerto Rico )

Not related to the above picture ''a vet who mistreated two of her own dogs has been fined hundreds of pounds. Kerstin Vockert from Sopley in Dorset admitted failling to meet the welfare needs of her cocker spaniel and her shih tzu who were found severely matted and covered in mud and faeces. One was put down by Vockert herself - the other had to be completely shaved.''

http://www.itv.com/news/meridian/update/2015-05-29/vet-fined-by-rscpa-after-neglecting-her-own-dogs/

Yet no one is fined or accountable for homeless humans or humans living in diabolical poverty or famine stricken countries, we can fine hundreds of pounds for a dog covered in faeces , yet we walk past the homeless holding our noses and mock the faeces on their clothes.

We can spend billions on science and war, but yet we can leave children with starving bellies.



''We look to the stars and we look to the world, we ask if there is a God, please do not forsake us, we have not done thy no evils, we are the innocent, we did not ask to be born in this specific location, a place of specific sun generation'' I imagine they say.

''Allah can not be wise and wonderful and everywhere, Allah does not show charity and mercy to all, yet we prey the same for his help although his name maybe named different , a name is just a name'' I imagine they say.

''There can be no God, love or compassion, humanity does not care about us, we will just die'' I imagine they do.

 

So I guess I will have to tell him you rejected him. When you say "we" does that include you?

 

I am not neglecting them am I , I have brought this up for the politicians who are accountable. I am not in a position where I can do anything, however politicians who have this responsibility ignore the truth and facts.
Every time I see a homeless person I try to give as much as I can spare, I wish I could do more, maybe if I could get the world to listen then maybe those responsible, i.e politicians, might just sort it out. They would be the best loved politicians ever , known as humane.

 

If you were smarter, you'd have brought water and the art if you had to cross the desert. But not everyone is smart, I guess.

 

Well...if I make more than a doctor then how can anyone say a doctor has more value? You can generalize all you wish but it doesn't justify declaring that one person's value is less than another person's value. It's a place no one should even go! We should not generalize or stereotype.

Soldiers are not for hire?? They all are for hire and receive incentive bonuses to reenlist. If they were not paid you believe many Americans would 'volunteer' to go into combat?

When the USA rids itself of farming, and all food is imported, then people will see the value in farming. What's the value of the tow truck driver when your car breaks down in a dark and rural area? People seldom have use for a doctor but they require food every day, water every day, shelter every day, etc.

People ARE NOT born with the same potential?

Any idea of valuing a human based on how much they can earn is nonsense...

 

So you care sooo much, you are willing to allow everyone else to do the heavy lifting. How is that different than not caring at all? You have a couch for someone to sleep on if you really cared. I guess its much easier to be sanctimonious.

 

And preaches it's message of Doom and Gloom with the fire and brimstone style of an Evangelist.

 

No one put anyone outdoors, they put themselves there. Gold is an excellent conductor and has real value in electronics.
I asked you before and you didn't care to answer. ----What is it that you think the president can do to stop the planet from evolving?

 

I often have a guy on the couch , I have had many friends stay over the years who have met unforeseen problems and ended up homeless. You could say that does not count, but I am not a well off person , have children and just about can survive myself. Luckily I am not one for want and greed, I just want to live my life out as long as I can.

 

By evolving, do you mean growing in population? or growing in knowledge?

 

Thats all that counts. Where I live, there is shelter and food for all homeless. The problem is that they do not allow the consumption of alcohol or drugs, so the homeless prefer to live on the streets. How would not allowing people to own pets help?

 

A post like this was inevitable

Regardless that the OP was about as far from actual climate science as you can get and still be written in modern text it was inevitable that in some minds it would be confabulated with the IPCC reports on equal footing

But then those who do this form of confabulation rarely know basic tenets of the subject matter