Healthcare--a right or not?

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  1. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    Thank you. And I tend to agree with much of what you said. I don't know how we handle pre-existing conditions. For someone with heart disease of cancer can live many many years with treatment. Perhaps a means to lower health care costs is in order. But that aspect of the issue is never brought up. With insurance as the middle man, IMO, it gets pushed under the rug.

    Have a nice day.
     
  2. Greataxe

    Greataxe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't think our Fed Government should be in health insurance business, except for healthcare of it's own employees.

    I don't even support Medicare, much less Medicaid. But they are a reality, and my wishful thinking is not.

    Both programs are Ponzi schemes and are not self-sustaining.

    But to answer the question, if an older person 65+ still wants to work, they should at most draw the Medicare they paid into (hopefully). Medicaid should not be offered to those older folks still wanting to work, regardless of their health/mental issues.
     
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    Texas Republican Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It doesn't matter what you think or feel. What matters is what the Constitution says about health care.

    It's not a right.
     
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    Now you should defend your statements, particularly this one: "might makes right"

    How does might turn something wrong, or morally inert, into something right?

    Also, explain exactly what you think amounts to legality and where you think its magical causal powers come from.
     
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    Also explain why you hold natural law to a different standard than you hold positive law to. Why do you want everyone in the world to give explicit assent to a natural right before you admit it exists, while believing that all a positive right needs to exist is a government saying it does?
     
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    Too bad that the constitution specifically INCLUDES the "General Welfare" of We the People which would cover healthcare and the 9th amendment covers all unenumerated rights belonging to We the People.
     
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    That's actually not true. The constitution matters very little. It seems like there are enough rulings on it that strain credulity beyond any point that could be called rational for that to be obvious to everyone.
     
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    General welfare are those things that benefit the people when taken as a whole. Post offices, post roads, national defense, those things listed in the US Constitution, Article 1, Section 8.

    General welfare is *NOT* individual welfare. Individual welfare is exactly that, it is for the welfare of the individual. Individual welfare does *NOT* exist in the US Constitution. Therefore it *should* be a State power, not a federal powr.
     
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