Help me understand the opposition to the LGBTQ community. Opposition input preferred.

I'm sorry you are missing out on gay bennies

 

yeah that isn't how it works here,

 

So you want a socialist government that privileges certain people?

There are no special rights for gay people, You could marry a person of the same sex if you wanted to, you wouldn't have to show that you were gay.

 

What the heck does this even mean? Is the implication that "gay friendliness" is something bad? Don't you believe in Individual Rights?

This makes absolutely zero sense -- gay men are into men, not trans-women. However, a lot of the anti-transers are 100% into trans-women and are just trying to cope by pretending to be anti.

How do you "push for" transgenders? This is the exact same rhetorics used against homosexuality in the 1950's. So stupid.

I don't know. It is weird to me how obsessed certain people are with other people's genitalia.

 

It's not how it works anywhere. "Pressumably gay people" is a very dumb phrase. Those "pressumably gay guys" are actually straight and chase the "lady boys" because they think they are ladies.

 

If you are dating a man that dresses up like a woman (Lady boy/drag queen) and you are also a man you aren't straight. So no guys that date lady boys are absolutly not straight. Or they are being catfished. Chances are if they are going after guys regardless of how they dress they likely know they are men,

 

So, you teach your children to be homophobic?

Very classy.

 

Lots and lots and lots of straight dudes think these lady-boys are cis-women and you would be surprised to know how many straight dudes there are who are into "trans porn" -- Many Conservatives who are loud opponents watch it in secret.

Yes, sometimes they are just "closeted" gay guys.

 

I imagine when they take teir penis out it will disillusion them.

Watching porn and having sex withsomeone are two very different things

People can watch whatever they want, whu wouldn't porn viewing be secret do you watch porn are you proud of it?

I have been in the closet too. people shouldn't shame people for that. or they could be bi

 

My point is that people these days care waaaay too much about things that should not matter.

I do not judge people based on gender and sexuality and do not understand why other people think that should be the standard of value.

 

On the internet people say all sorts of crap they likely wouldn't say in person. or it is a thing you only get if you ask.

I had a couple experiences one from a lady in a department store the others there were these guys at the pride parade with megaphones, they were saying things like repent god forgives. it wasn't direct probably because it caused problems before.

 

I’m an easy going sort. I always believed letting folks live the life they want as long as they’re not harming others. I have no problem with the LGBTQ community outside of one thing. That is letting biological born male Trans playing in girls sports. I think that is highly unfair to biological born females. Especially in the High School and College level. All the rest, I don’t give an owl’s hoot about. Let people alone to live their life as they see fit. It’s like religion, no one should force their religion or no religion on anyone else. One’s lifestyle shouldn’t be forced on anyone else either.

 

at least they should be able to resist pedophiles

 

Gay relationship is a private arangement, like any other arrangment that does not require government involvement.
If you provide public benefit for one type of private relationship you should provide exactly the same benefits for other types.
It is not happening, only homosexuals are rewarded with public benefits.

 

I would argue no marriage reqires the government.

The involvement of the government in all facets is just to extort money. your Issue isn't with imaginary benefits it is with the government legitimizing it. if you didn't want that you should have advocated for their disinvolvement in all of it. but just like a leftist you need mommy government to approve of your opinion. This is why i say democrats and republicans are exactly the same. the only difference is who is approved of and who isn't.

 

Heterosexual relationship require regulation to force couple to be responsible for their actions.
so something need to done to give heterosexual couples as a public benefit.
That something used to be called marriage.

If public benefits are provided for strictly private arrangement, then any kind of private arangement should get exactly the same benefits.
it is not currently happening, only relationship that is based on gay sex is getting public benefits.

 

so you are special and need mommy government controlling you? why are Heterosexuals so ****ed up they can't control themselves?

Life's a bitch.

Same sex marriage is no longer a private arrangement.

Same sex marriage isn't a private arrangement. you go to the justice of the peace.

 

They aren't going to trust you if you tell them all homosexuals are pedos. ignoring the vast majority of heteros that are is not smart either.

 

Im only opposed to sexualizing children. If a teacher introduced themselves to their class by saying 'and btw, I'm straight', thats just as unecessary and innapropriate of a reference describing what they're sexually attracted to as teachers that make it a point for their students to know they're gay. Be whoever you are, but leave the sex for health class.

 

I disagree with the idea that the LGBT is propagating "forced acceptance". It would be impossible to force anyone to accept anything. What you can demand is treatment. I can't force you to accept that gay marriage is acceptable but we can enforce the idea that you don't get to treat a gay couple differently from a straight couple. Be it in business dealings, government treatment and threats and/or harassment.

Telling people that just because they have a "sincerely held religious belief" that they are exempt from laws that try to enforce fair treatment means the laws have no power whatsoever. How are we supposed to tell what is, or is not, a "sincerely held religious belief"? Could a person use a "sincerely held religious belief" to discriminate against black people? For example would a web designer have the right to refuse to design websites for black people because they have a "sincerely held religious belief" that a white person should never work for a black person? If not, then how is that different then telling them they don't have to work for a gay person or couple?

 

I don’t oppose the LGBTQ community. But …

If they want to be treated equally, then ACT like everyone else and keep your sexuality to yourself.

Come out against bio-males competing in women’s sports.

Respect a bio-woman’s right to modesty and comfort in certain places that should be reserved for them.

In other words, getting along with others as you go through life is not all about you.

 

Of course they are. That's why they propagate homosexuality and trans in movies and try to teach how to scissor to children in sex Ed. They are trying to normalize it to children so that future generations will accept their behavior.

 

Agreed.

I don't want to see heterosexuals, homosexuals, trans or any one playing tonsil hockey in public. Holding hands? Don't care.

What I've yet to comprehend is how people consider themselves 'treated less equal', if they are treated the same as everyone else. No one is going to know your gender identity, sexual orientation or personal kink unless you announce it. But why announce it, if you aren't expecting a reaction?

 

They have to force it, they are forcing it by endlessly repeating that nonsense about equality.
There is absolutely no equality between homosexual and heterosexual couples, in fact they are fundamentally different.

 

Part of the issue is doing what you've done above and that is putting a bunch of people in different groups together that don't necessarily belong together. To clarify your phrase is outdated and each new updates shows the real problem.

The updated phrase is 2SLGBTQIA++

So here is where the break in "support" occurs and why there is a large and growing body of people opposed to certain aspects of that community.

Most people have a fundamental belief that we should not engage in any sort of discrimination for innate characteristics. There's been a lot of blood, sweat and tears as the United States has taken the initial promise of the Bill of Rights and made sure it applies to all people. Along the way, as part of our growth we've taken steps to make sure certain classes of people who were historically mistreated get an extra bit of scrutiny in the area of rights due to that history.

The basis of most of that mistreatment were often innate characteristics, things like sexual orientation, race, sex and so on. The reason why it was possible to win support for these protections is that you cannot control how you were born. People can empathize with and support the thinking that if they were born as gay, a woman, black and so on that they wouldn't want to be treated differently.

That has changed when the concept of gender was created and began substituting for the innate characteristic of sex.

Gender is considered part of queer theory which looks at all those innate characteristics through a critical lens and seeks to deconstruct them. By deconstruct I mean remove and replace them with something else.

That is why you hear phrases like "gender assigned at birth" like some mean doctor just decided to inflict something on someone. Sex is not assigned. It is biologically determined. Since we can't choose our biology we make laws to protect that fact.

Queer theory and gender declares that we DO choose our biology and if something about our biology is wrong, we just choose something different.

Queer theory, trans advocacy and so on seeks to literally assign protected status to states of mind vs innate characteristics.

So almost no one fears "exposure" to the community. The problem is that when people are adults, and critical thinkers, that many deconstructive elements of critical and queer theory will not work on them. You can convince a 3 year old boy to go into the women's bathroom with his Mom because it won't matter that he's a boy. Trying to make the same argument to a 13 year old boy girl won't work. So the movement seeks access to kids to normalize or "expose" the children to ideas so they will be less hesitant to question them later. This is why all of this is about access to kids. Most people do not car about the decisions are making about their own lives.

A second element is that trans advocacy keeps conflating and attempting to replace sex. When you do that you don't just erase heterosexual behavior, which is why they insist on the word CIS. They also erase and replace homosexuality. Gay and lesbian are defined as same SEX attraction. You can't have that when you no longer have the concept of sex. That's why we've read about women who are being force to accept trans women in sex EXCLUSIVE spaces. Trans people no longer believe in sex. In fact they spend their entire existence literally fighting their own biology.

So trans advocacy and queer theory doesn't just erase sex. It erases heterosexuality, it wants it replaced with CIS. It attempts to replace homosexuality by saying you are attracted to the same gender which means you no longer are supposed to care about the equipment downstairs. It erases women by saying the protections they have based on their biology don't really matter because biology doesn't really matter.

One of the reason for all the additional letters is trying to break down the natural disgust that occurs with your actual orientation. You can find articles for trans advocacy for example that calls feminists TERFS as a slur. The people working for rights for women, they're the oppressors now. Are you a lesbian who won't date a trans woman. Your repulsion for a woman with a penis is "problematic" and you need to work through it via a process we would call conversation therapy if applied anywhere else. It's "problematic" because you can't be same SEX attracted. If you find the wrong sexual organs repulsive that is your phobia.

However it isn't our phobia. It is our orientation. It is our INNATE orientation. A gay man likes men. If you asked him to imagine sex with a woman or kissing a woman the reaction of "gross" is part of what drove the rights movement because we can have empathy there. We can say, "Yes as a heterosexual man if you asked me to imagine sex with a man or relationship with a man I would have a feeling of disgust." That isn't phobia. That is our orientation but the trans community and queer theory declares all of that disgust is just socially constructed phobia that must be overcome.

The vast majority of people simply won't go along with it. If they get the kids early enough, they believe they WILL go along with it. All those additional letters are part of that deconstruction process. It started with sex. Then gender. Now the very concept of gender is supposedly expanded to the point of being meaningless as s term but that is exactly the point. It's called deconstruction for a reason.

So out of that group of letters most people believe in heterosexuality (not CIS). They can empathize with the G and L. They probably joke that the B is just a phase of cool girls in college. (They make the same jokes in the G and L community and the T and all the rest are part of a movement intent on deconstructing society, applying protected status and special rights to nothing more than state of mind and if you really dig deep on it, all of it is just redressed Marxism in a new lens since the old lens of class failed so miserably around the world as communism. Trans advocacy and Queer Critical theory are revolutionary ideologies that are akin to a religion and seek to remake all of society into a new utopia in the manner they demand and dictate.