Here's why some scientists are convinced there's life on Mars

Whatever Dude. You don't want to know the truth that's your problem !

 

Do you think this is a rock !
[video]https://youtu.be/xDef4Bwgod4[/video]

 

I am unsure of the Youtube video equivalent, but you only get to read 2500 books in your life. Better make them good ones.

 

I have no idea. Seems like a pile of rocks to me.

 

I can suggest two books for you written a long time ago and have become reality today "1984".,by George Orwell( real name Eric Blair) and "Brave New World" by Aldous Huxley .If you haven't read them they're well worth the time.

 

Why is this thread in the science forum instead of the conspiracy forum where it belongs? Moderators?

 

I have read them both, both good reads, I prefer the latter as it more closely reflects today's world.

 

It is entirely possible that life from Mars seeded life on Earth.

Thing is with a Universe with 100 to 150 Billion Galaxies and within each Galaxy 75 Billion to 300 Billion Stars and untold numbers of Planets in the Trillions.....Life is pervasive throught our Universe.

AboveAlpha

 

I guess because it backed up by at least 6 scientific articles written by reputable scientist if you'd bother to check them out instead of worrying about people finding out the truth, NASA Shill ! What are you afraid of !!!!

 

Perhaps there really is no way to bypass the speed of light, and that's why none of us have made contact.

 

Gravitic Drive....either Fold Space-Time or Warp it.

We see this happening around large mass celestial bodies so it is possible.

AboveAlpha

 

Regardless of the light barrier...there would be both the time barrier and the enormous distances involved, not to mention the reasoning behind using resources to visit a tiny little world that you really have no reason to check out. Seriously people, what makes us think we are so special?

 

Well....some people think Humanity is the end all to end all!!!

I have delt with many people who you might label as THE SCUM OF HUMANITY!!!

I was watching the Digital Satellite Feed of the Delta Team incursion into Syria where they were able to kill many members of ISIS and kill the Oil Financeer of ISIS....the senior ISIS leader Abu Sayyaf.

The SCUM BAG MEMBERS OF ISIS IN THE VIDEO WERE HOLDING SMALL CHILDREN AGAINST THEIR BODIES AS HUMAN SHIELDS AND I HAVE BEEN TOLD SOME OF THESE CHILDREN WHERE THEIR OWN!!!

At that point it went down to HAND TO HAND FIGHTING and no members of the Elite Delta Force were injured or killed but they killed all those dirt bag members of ISIS who were in Syria protecting their MONEY LINE as senior ISIS leader Abu Sayyaf was in charge of financing the ISIS with OIL MONEY!!!

Delta killed him and took his widow in for interogation.....as well a JACKPOT of INTEL. was taken back by Delta as everything from Laptops to Cell Phones and Papers were taken back with them.

The Assad Regime SMARTLY did not interfere as we have told him that the moment he get's in our way will be the last days of his life.

I guess my point is that Out There in our extremely vast Universe there has got to be some People who have solved and developed the UFT and WANT FOR NOTHING.

War is always been about either Relligion or resources......I am hopeful there are a great number of Alien Civilizations that having moved on from worshiping Idiocy and moved on from NEEDING PHYSICAL RESOURCES as if you understand and develop a working Unified Field Theory not only does this make Interstellar Travel Possible....but it means you can generate ALL THE ENERGY YOU WOULD EVER NEED!!!

But more than that.....not only can you generate Energy you can also change it into any form or pattern of Matter you want or need.

Reason for this is all Matter is COMPLETELY COMPRISED OF QUANTUM PARTICLE/WAVE FORMS OF ENERGY!!

AboveAlpha

 

Certainty, based upon a vastly limited knowledge is arrogance, not what you accuse me of. You see a lot of certainty here, which means you see lots of ignorance here. And what you said, based upon limited knowledge, is this tendency to claim certainty. I am certain about only one thing, that you are an arrogant idiot. Only an idiot makes such claims from not only limited knowledge, but a vastly limited knowledge. It's a affection you see quite a bit of these days.

The problem of course is that, idiots never know they are idiots....and that is why they are idiots. They cannot self correct.

So when they find a kind of life that survives what you said is impossible, will your ego be able to admit you were wrong? From what you have typed so far, the best guess is NO. Arrogance never admits being wrong. And it goes without saying that such arrogance doesn't like to be called on it. But great certainty arising from limited knowledge must be called out. To bring some coherence back. And to shine a light on the ignorance.

I would bet that you are certain that god does exist or does not exist. If so, you claim certainty where in reality, you cannot own it. You do claim certainty to that question also, do you not?

 

Now...why would any species with such understanding and technology want or need to visit and deal with a species that is as violent and ignorant as ourselves? If by chance they actually did for some reason...Do you think they would drive around at night with their lights on?

Would we even have the slightest Idea that they were here?

 

Scientific articles? What scientific articles, where? The OP contains a link to yahoo's finance page that talks in general terms about findings from the curiosity rover, information that we already know about that has nothing to do with little green men, only speculation about the possibility of little green microbes below the surface that haven't yet been detected. Then the OP provides a link to a youtube video of a guy who has thirty years experience in the construction business who is "analyzing" an outcrop imaged by the Opportunity rover. And that video, and the subsequent ridiculous discussion is the reason this thread should be in the conspiracy theory forum instead of the science forum. First of all, your construction worker is not a scientist (I am a geologist with 29 years of education and field experience). His descriptions of that outcrop are absurd. It's made up. He doesn't know what he's talking about. Anyone with half a brain can see that.

 

There's several other links to Science and The Huffington Post.
Do you think this is a rock
[video]https://youtu.be/xDef4Bwgod4[/video]

 

YES...it is a ROCK, sitting in a field of other ROCKS, amongst million or billions of other ROCKS to be found on Mars. Many of which will look like a very many things based upon the imagination and creative manipulation of the person who sees it. It has been explained to you more that a few times that the possibility of ANY advanced biological life on the planet is impossible by the standards of multiple scientific disciplines. The likely hood of simian life forms having come about in an environment that would kill it immediately are absolutely Nil. Pretending similarities based on imagined optics is so ignorant of reality as to be insane.

 

Then perhaps advanced life isn't as common in the universe as we'd like to think.

 

Absolutely, it is a friggin rock. And I stand by my point that this belongs n the conspiracy forum, not the science forum.

 

The Fermi "paradox" isn't a paradox at all, or even a roadblock to believing intelligent life exists. It's based entirely on assumptions that people don't have the informational basis to be making in the first place, and especially not back when Fermi himself said the words.

We always assume that as technology progresses, we'll have ways to travel the enormous distances between the stars and spread out to colonize most of the habitable planets in an entire galaxy. We could, right now, travel those distances with existing technology but the time scales involved would mean dozens upon dozens of human generations just to reach a place. We have no business assuming other civilizations will solve this problem to such an extent that they spread out enough and emit enough powerful signals that our pitiful technology should be able to detect them. We also have no business assuming how long it would take for life to evolve. We don't know that, at all, because we only have one sample. The Earth.

 

A rock formed by the elements to look exactly like a bone complete with a bone marrow passage. Boy, Nature is good, AMAZING !
[video]https://youtu.be/xDef4Bwgod4[/video]

So you think discussing a photo taken by a multi-billion dollar rover on another planet doesn't belong in the science forum. Sounds like science to me.
Just as much as discussing a Hubble telescope picture that's left up to individual speculation as to what it's showing!

 

The rock is fractured from a larger rock. You can see the shatter cone on it. It's clearly a rock. I think unqualified amateurs making wild assed guesses should post their nonsense somewhere other than on a science forum. Get a grip.

 

The difference between you and me is that I don't trot out "There might be life on Mars" every six months in order to try and keep myself relevant. The difference between you and me is that I will await for actual evidence before I make wild speculations about whether life is there or not. Only an arrogant person claims that life can happen anywhere. That is complete and utter horse (*)(*)(*)(*). If that were the case the universe would be flooded with extraterrestial communications and vast empires with ships all around us. We would have been conquered by now in the best case scenario. The current estimate for the number of variables that need to exist in a solar system is around 200. Things like having giant planets like Jupiter to sweep up the junk that can easily devastate life if it hits a planet. The star needs to be the right kind as well otherwise it it to powerful or not strong enough, planets need magnetic fields and so on.

What I am constantly sick and tired of seeing is idiots running around claiming that all that life needs is water, carbon and the right temps. That has been discarded decades ago and no serious scientist has thought that way since the 1960s. That kind of idiocy is only parroted by the uneducated and illiterate.

And once again you prove yourself to be a liar and a fraud. I have said now that life most likely never formed on Mars.......TWICE NOW. But you continue to claim that I say it is impossible. You are liar and a fraud and all here can see it. You can't win the argument so you claim that I say things I didn't.

 

Imagine YOU are a scientist seeking $ $ $
Scientist need to eat too.​

Like man made global warming, what do YOU suppose markets better?

No, Mars is sterile. There can't be life there
or
Yes, most certainly Mars has life.

Yup!


Moi
Safe Bet since no one knows


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