Heroin rates keep rising at hospitals

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  1. Arphen

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    California hospitals continued to see high numbers of heroin-related cases last year despite efforts to stem abuse of the addictive drug, according to newly released data.
    Emergency room visits and hospital admissions for heroin-related illness surged 10 percent in the first half of 2014 compared to the same period in 2013. It was the highest six-month total reported in the past decade, the Office of Statewide Health Planning and Development said this week
    http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2015/mar/05/heroin-ca-increase/

    The war on addiction will end up the same as the war on drugs. The difference will be that instead of prisons we will be building treatment centers and expand the definition of mental illness. Everyone is mentally ill sometime in their lives. Druggies are druggies and deserve nothing
     
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    So what's your solution to this "problem"?
     
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    Deserve nothing? What exactly does that mean? Are you saying there should be no treatment centers for people addicted to heroin?
     
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    A lot of my doctor friends are saying this is a result of the recent restrictions put on prescription pain killers.

    Pain killers on the street have more than doubled in price and are harder to get since the government cracked down.

    People have switched to the cheaper alternative which is heroin.

    Tough situation, the pills needed to be stopped, not sure how the heroin can. Or if it can...
     
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    Let them die or hit rock bottom. The only reasons we have exploding drug abuse problems in this country are that 1) we classify it as a disease instead of the very obvious character flaw it is for the benefit of a Complex taxpayer funded and subsidized treatment and social work industry; 2) We incentivize people's repetitive awful life choices such that people no longer feel real consequences for their actions, we allow the Complex to slowly bleed us to care for people who will not improve until they are allowed to truly fail. In this way, we are all of us responsible for filling the needle and killing these people, just slowly while the Complex extracts from the rest of us with their "disease" as window dressing. If they die too fast, the Complex can't milk taxpayers enough and grow enough, better to draw it out so as much as possible can be stolen from the productive. Same old Complex formula, different application.
     
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    I bet the hospitals are pissed that their opiate market share is getting hurt by the street.
     
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    Your wrong. Have you been on heroin? No I am not a liberal. After being released from the hospital because of a car accident in the 80s I became hooked on Heroin. When my grandmother died she was hooked on Morphine. When Heroin gets into your body it turns to Morphine so I guess in your view I come from a long line of druggies starting with grandma????
     
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    Check out the heroin rate in Louisville...

    State government cracked down on prescription pills, so everyone went to heroin.

    I know a lot of them.
     
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    You know CA is BIG! But what is really scary are all those tiny towns in the middle of the country with middle class people who are ALSO hooked. Druggies may be druggies but they could easily be someone's mother or father--even on this board.

    The war on drugs was a joke. Well intentione but a JOKE.
     
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    If a crack down on drugs is a "joke", what, then is the answer? Just make all drugs legal?
     
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    The DEA heavy hand in clamping down on prescriptions has directly contributed to the rise in street drug use.

    As for your anger with addicts, it to is misplaced. Just leave them alone. No need for prohibition, no need for a treatment industry. NA & AA work just fine for the hard core user, a mere percentage point or so of the population.
    Fact is, 90% of those addicted will quit on there own. It gets boring. Some will need help tapering but a doctor can handle this, let them.

    Cheers
    Labour
     
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    Easy, don't do heroin. Problem solved and Hospitals can spend more resources on people with real illness. Human failures is all they are.
     
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    Duh, make it legal so more people can do it and we have more junkies we can pay for.
     
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    Mexican army on the Hunt For Poppies In Mexico - America's Biggest Heroin Supplier...
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    On The Hunt For Poppies In Mexico — America's Biggest Heroin Supplier
    January 14, 2018 - The Mexican army gave NPR a firsthand look at its efforts to eradicate the flowering crop that's made into heroin.
     
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    Abolish prescriptions. Let anyone get any drug for any reason at any time.

    Instant 10 years prison for anyone found selling to kids or stealing to support a habit.

    Problem solved.
     
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