Herschel Walker Paid for Girlfriend’s Abortion, Report Says

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  1. ShadowX

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    Methinks you’ve been watching too much of that sham made for television special “investigation”. An investigation where they edited testimony, shortened testimony, only produced evidence that was beneficial to their case and yet refused to present exculpatory evidence which they had. ALL while sitting members of congress stated unequivocally and definitively that their investigative target was guilty BEFORE and during their so-called investigation.

    It’s easy to make someone appear guilty when you selectively present evidence against them. But they can’t do that in a court. Hence no charges from the DOJ even though this fraud of a committee has been bottle feeding them all of their information.
     
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    time will tell, and i believe America always does the right thing, sooner or later
     
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    Lol, buddy, you need to look at the history of the Corwin amendment. It wasn't pro-slavery enough for the South, and they had already started seceding. There's a reason why the Southern-approved version was much more pro-slavery.

    Look, man, these people EXPLICITLY STATED AT THE TIME that they were seceding over slavery. I'm taking their word about their own motives over the historical revisionism that you are attempting.
     
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    The American government was on a course to realize that black people are people. The traitors that you are defending were terrified of that course.
     
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    You could have shortcut that to "Nuh Uh" with the same effect...

    I'll just point to the statement from his slightly-less-nutty son..

    "Everything is a lie"

    When you deal with liars, it's best to work backwards and identify the handful of truthful statements he's made...
     
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    And are to this day...
     
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    We can discuss the merits of that position if you’d like. But I don’t think you really want to have that discussion.

    Nevertheless, your position does not negate the FACT that the northern states purposefully and willfully refused to follow the constitution and the scotus. Once they do so, the south has NO obligation, WHATSOEVER to remain within the union. The treasonous are those who refused to uphold the constitution.
     
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    The merits of which position? The position that black humans are humans?

    The Constitution never guaranteed a "right" to race-based chattel slavery. The only treason here was from the South at the time, who decided they would rather take people's rights away than remain Americans. **** 'em. The only ones I have sympathy for are those who were conscripted by the racist authoritarian regime.
     
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    No. That it was beneficial to the country to do so without going through the constitutional process.

    The scotus disagreed with you in Dred Scott. And whether or not you think that was a good decision is irrelevant. It was the constitutional order of the day.
     
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    Dred Scott, the worse decision our courts have ever made, was based on the assumption that black humans aren't full human. The Constitution, on the other hand, recognizes that humans have rights. You can only claim that race based chattel slavery is Constitutional by claiming that black people aren't actually people. The South realized that was true, and that their racist authoritarianism was on shakey Constitutional ground. That's why the only major changes they made to the Constitution involved exactly that.
     
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    Dude, why do you OP about the alleged abortion of Walker's girlfriend since you advocate for out of wedlock abortions??

    Neocons care about this...Neocons comprise about 9% of the GOP, IMO...Lots of established GOP dinosaurs in congress who also advocate for regime change in Russia.
     
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    Take out the word racist, and that sounds like Russia today... Seen those videos of Russian males being dragged off to the "training camps"..

    Not a good look... I wonder if it was the same in the land of Dixie?
     
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    Who the **** "advocates for out-of-wedlock abortions"?

    Silly and untrue claim. Suggesting that women should have the right to an abortion is hardly "advocating" that they get abortions.
     
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    BTW, Dred Scott is also an example of how radically SCOTUS can change on issues. In the 1850s, Dred Scott was the law of the land and in the mid 1860s blacks were considered humans and not property.
     
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    All dems. 'Progressives' and the black community, for sure.:roll:
     
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    You assert an authority here you cannot possible have. But who cares. You participated. And for that, we applaud you.. LOL
     
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    And democrats have never forgiven the rest of us for taking away their property....
     
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    I get your point, but in this case, I would have advocated for an abortion, since neither sperm nor egg donor seemed to want a child at that time... I'm sure the sperm donor would have required a complete explanation of what was going on, due to the fact he's had "a lot of concussions" ** N. Gingrich 10/4/2022

    As you indicate, wedlock should not be a top criteria when considering an abortion, although it can come into play...
     
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    Yet the only people we see on this thread, or anywhere else on this forum, who defend the Confederates and call the US the traitors . . . are right wingers. Same was true of the neo-confederates I grew up around. And you only see the "lost cause" myth and whitewashing of Confederate history happening in red states . . . pushed by conservatives.
     
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    I also rolled my eyes in response to your rather silly and dishonest claim. You understand that advocating for a right doesn't mean that you agree with someone exercising that right? So if someone advocates free speech, (according to your reasoning) you must agree with everything that people exercising that right have to say, right?
     
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    And the South seceded because they knew that this was coming and that the US Constitution wasn't sufficient enough to protect their racist institution.
     
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    Why is this criticism different because Walker is black? This story would be getting air time no matter what the color of his skin, because it's got nothing to do with the color of his skin but rather the ideology he's appealing to in order to be elected.

    The whole "Dem plantation" nonsense is something that was invented by some on the right in an attempt to play the same type of race politics they accuse the left of doing. What I will grant you is that there are some on the left who do seem surprised that black people don't all think the same, but that's not a criticism of the left itself, it's a criticism of simple minded idiots who think everyone has to have the same opinion of the right as they do. A simple look at any other racial group shows you that no racial group all think alike, and that it's asinine to ever think they would.
     
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    Southern conservatives are not Democrats, and haven't been Democrats for decades. Yet another historically dubious claim.

    Do you guys read history at all?
     
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    Actually, for some bizarre reason, what I bolded isn't entirely true.... it's a much more nationwide thing, and it's based on "race, party, and education levels"

    Interesting article...

    SNIP
    But it’s the product of a dynamic in which white, rural Americans around the country have adopted the culture of white, rural southerners.

    The PRRI-EPU study finds that, at the very least, people who do not believe that structural racism exists are much more likely to support Confederate monuments. That helps explain how the U.S. ended up with a Queens-reared, longtime-Manhattan-dwelling president wrapping himself (metaphorically) in the Confederate flag and praising Lee.
    ENDSNIP

    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/a...survey-race-religion-education-divide/671639/
     
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    Simply untrue. If it wasn't for folks like me, democrats would still be using whips and shackles. Try not to forget that. Same conversation about today. Democrats are simply flooding the nation with illegals so...? so they can use them, like the slaves they are because they cannot legally work any other way. Democrats. This is what you're ignoring, or purposefully tying to avoid addressing.

    There is a huge difference between those who fought, bravely on both sides, and the institution of slavery. You simply try to ignore it. I understand why, it is inconvenient to your otherwise high opinion of your own morality.
     
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