Hezbollah will give crushing response if Tel Aviv attacks Lebanon

Israel suffered more losses than what it thought it would, there were some failures in supply chain, it also true that Israel bombed all its targets in 3 days , it could have made alot more damage but kept the fighting only to Hizbi targets, the fact Israel could have done better is like Hizbi's victory is not smart and very biased......., what did they won? they didnt stop the war, the powers did,

If Hizbi will take the decision for the Lebanese gov and attack Israel if/when it bombs Iran reactors, Israel will bomb Lebanon, this time with lessons learned.

 

Israel's border with Lebanon has been relatively quiet because, as yet, Israel hasn't decided to invade again. You have been shown numerous links, both from qualified academics, historians, Israeli sources and the US military stating, categorically, that Israel failed miserably to defeat Hezbollah. Your argument that that was not the purpose of the invasion is, frankly, weak at best and is clearly a pathetic attempt at a diversion from the facts.
Hezbollah beat the IDF. Deal with it.

 

When did Israel made an unprovoked attack against Lebanon? even in the war it was just against Hizbi NOT Lebanon army - your accusations don't hold in reality.


What you showed and Israel own seld criticism is meant to improve the army and manily decision making, there were many reasons for so many losses (relativity speaking) but you cant possibly say it was "defeat", the side that agreed to the demands is much more closer to be defeated.....

The purpose of the war was to draw Hizbi back from the border and replace them with Labanon solders, add to that that IT WAS Lebanon PM that cried for help and Nassi said he was sorry and if he knew that's how Israel would react he wouldnt attack the sodiers at the border, if yiou were objective you would know what that meant, how can that be taken as Israeli defeat is beyounf me..

Hizbi did retreat at least for a while, it was obivous that we will fight again as that's the reason they exist.

To be clear: the facts you gave say nothing about winner/loser, the facts are Israel did push back Hizbi and could have done much better job. we probably will next time.

 

With respect, I suggest you read the following. It is quite long, and in three parts, and is non-partisan in its delivery. Both Crooke and Perry's credentials are impeccable.
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/HJ12Ak01.html

 

Hezbollah, Hamas, the Taliban, al Qaeda, Iran. Who cares who the Islamist loonies are this time ? Nuke all of them off the face of the earth. The few that are left, can either be annihilated piecemeal, or they can burn their Korans, and join the human race. They have a good example to follow - the Japs of 1945.

 

Hey, but Jack, weren't you the first to deride Galloway after I made an argument in defence of his politics when you posted a clip of him on Celebrity Big Brother?

I'll answer that question for you.....Yes, you were.

 

You people have far, far less rights than I do, a much lower standard of living and great deal less privacy than any American. If it ever comes to pass that I end up like you lot, then I'll worry.

 

That's not the current view, we know Hizbi armed themselves for years, Israel appealed to the UN of trucks from Syria and Hizb are back at the border, they are now more armed than they were,

Cn you understand the difficulties ofg fighting just a part of an enemy country, not to hurt civilians or Syrian army units? its not like US are fighting by just bombing everything in sight, perhaps that was part of the problem, perhaps next time Israel should blame it all on Lebanon and bomb all of it.

Look, failing to bomb a bunker and letting it cause casualties to infantry is a failure, im not saying its not BUT the bunker did got destroyed eventually and Hizb did ask for a cease fire - not Israel, Israel did not break in this war nither did Hizb but they did agree to conditions, the cease fire did serve Hizb better, if the war continued I think Israel would be better off,

Hizb did good in the war as long as it used the system against itself, they used to hide urban areas where IDF did not want to bomb, tunnels and bunkers against certain attacks etc', when they ran out of ammo and communication broke from the leadership to their fighters they knew they coudnt hold on much longer so they agreed to the cease fire, as IDF had a limited time (we knew that from day 1) for this operation we had to take it, as I said igf we continued the result would be better off to Israel.

 

If Israel had made the Lebanese government liable for the actions of it's gun toting crazies and just blew the hell out of everything, Syria would have intervened. This will not be a problem in the immediate future and so there is a window of opportunity that could be exploited should the need arise.

 

LOL seriously, do you believe this nonsense? Israel wiped the floor with Syria and Egypt in 1967 and 1973 and those borders have been quiet ever since, Israel cleaned the clock of Hamas and Hezbollah a few years ago and those previously volatile borders became as quiet as the borders of Switzerland.

Given the overwhelming evidence you should entertain the possibility that yo see the world upside down. Borders are not quiet because Israel has not decided to invade, Israel decides to invade when borders are not quiet and these Israeli invasions subdue, intimidate and "pacify" its enemies for decades to come.

 

Charles Krauthammer made a rather trenchant point in this regard, I think, just yesterday on FNC: Hezbollah is otherwise engaged at the moment--it is currently on the losing side of a civil war in Syria--so it may not wish to divide its attention. Therefore, this could be a strategically good time for Israel to attack Iran's known and suspected nuclear sites...

 

Exactly. Who knows how much longer Syria and their Hezzies will be involved in a death struggle against thei fellow citizens? Once they hang Assad from a lamp post, the Hezzies who survive the ensuing pogrom against them will go back home full of fight and be blaming everything on Israel.

 

Those bumbling, bearded banana heads couldn't sissy slap their way out of a web of wet toilet tissue. They hide in grade schools and yodel insults, then cry when they get blasted out of them.

 

Are you talking to the Brits on this forum? If so, you are sadly mistaken.

# In Britain your parliamentary representative really is exactly that. You can make an appointment to see him/her and air your grievances. Can you do that with your rep? Don't bother. I know the answer.
# What rights do you have if you own a coffee take-away and some fat bird spills coffee on her nether region?
# Privacy!! You are kidding!! What do you believe is Britain's equivalent of the Patriot (LOL) Act? Have you seen the incredible fuss being made about phone taps in the UK? Don't bother to answer. I know too much about the US media. It wouldn't be a blip on their radar screen.
# When you president lies to the American people, what happens? When Blair lied to the British, what happened? Tsk ... I forgot ...you probably watch Faux News and wouldn't have a clue.
# When you are poor and sick what happens in the USA versus the UK? Remember the recent story about the ambulance having to go to six different hospitals?
# In which year did the UK allow blacks to vote (see also Little Rock, Arkansas)
# To what extent is the UK support for human rights law conditional - think for instance on the jurisdiction of the International Court of Justice and the International Convention of Civil and Political Rights (ICCPR)
# How many British citizens were interned during WW2 by the Brits? (see also the Ringle report)

If you are talking to the French, Swedes, Belgians, Finns, Germans, Swiss, Austrians, Dutch or Danes, then you are even further off the mark.

If you are a Colombian peasant and the US sprays you with organic phosphates with very long names and your children get born with deformities, then you are correct. You are also correct if you are an Iraqi living in Fellujah, close to the Bagdad market, or in fact just about anywhere in your own country when Dubya got the hots for the tyrant whose hand Rummy shook in 1983 when he was just as much a tyrant .... if you know what I mean.

 

Well let me appraise you,,, Galloway is a MORON with defective Chromosomes! He has received a so called passport from the Gaza Leader.(when everyone knows that Gaza is not a country) but hey we are not ALL infallible!

 

Balderdash... I served in the British Navy for a good while in an officer course... and I know a little more than you describe... and I wonder why A country of 7 Million will confront an ally of 50 millions? Galloway is not worth the effort... Have a nice day.

 

Have you just stepped out of a time machine?

Balderdash?

Well, it's better than the usual profanity, I suppose!

 

Can we tape you to the nukes?

 

Much more poverty in the US, than in my country, Madrake me old chum.

And no, I don't have the right to carry an AK47 around, but that's because I don't shiver in my shoes any time I walk around.

You have the right to do what you are told by Jews.

 

Well they smashed the IDF.

Maybe be due to the recent policy of the IDF having so many gays in their forces.

I find it hard to imagine Boy George to be very intimidating.

 

Yes, glad you mentioned that.

Of course, no shock who was behind that - Murdoch and his filthy Zionist low down empire.

The sheer scale of it was staggering, as well, many believe that it was not only a Murdoch action, but a Mossad op, given some of those that were targets.

The timing as to when it all came out, was interesting.

Murdoch was trying to push through a deal to give his empire more control over our media.

Many robustly opposed it. Then..just when it looked it may go through....this all came out.

Remember, in both Britian and America, there are still many that are loyal to our own nation, to our people, and not to jews, and not to israel.

We don't like them trying to occupy our media etc, we most definitely do not like them being threatening in their manner, to our journalists.

The Zionists are inducing their own modern version of 'anti semitism', except it's not irrational hate, it's based on their actions and behaviours.

Either they are mentally ill, and simply do not understand that such things will always lead to a negative response, then an angry one, or they do it on purpose, perhaps with a view to stirring dislike of Jews here, in the hope that they can scare jews to go to Israel.

Anyway, on top of that other stuff you correctly cite, in my country specifically, our Gov (which should always look after it's own people), made it a legl right for every one of my citizens to have an offer of permanent housing. That came into effect in May. It's seen as a human right, and correctly so.

Moreover, no one here, rich or poor, needs to pay for medical prescriptions.

We all pay into the system, so we all get back from it again.

And you can go to college or Uni here, without fees that make it almost impossible.

England is a bit different. They still have punative tuitition fees.

We believe in an educated and healthy next generation.

Americans have the right to be uneducated, hate on each other, and have their health determined by how many bits of paper money they have.

 

Yes, I once had a Senator over for dinner as well (Paul Simon).

Plenty, it's not your problem now that cups have labels on them.

We don't have spy cameras on every street corner or phone taps to fuss over.

We impeach them.

None of the hospitals where I live are private and so they all have to accept anyone in the emergency room, regardless of the ability to pay.

1722. It was 1868 in the US.

They are a bunch of whiney hippies, so the UK probably pays people to be nice. We believe in the universal right to run while screaming from Predator drones.

Archibald Ramsey, William Joyce, Lord Londonderry, Unity Mitford, John Emory, Jessie Jordan, Joseph Kelly, Duncan Scott-Ford, George Armstrong, Norman Ballie Stewart, Anthony Steane, Ralph Powell, the members of British Free Corps...in all, about two hundred.

Anyway, we still get to have unlimited guns of various sorts and the ammo for them. I also have the right to shoot and kill an idiot attacking me.

 

He's a good debator, of that there is no doubt.

He would rip you in a debate, but you would probably get threatening or aggressive.

You have a rather savage nature, it seems.

 

True, but Debka is funny.

 

Oh, you'll be surprised how those gay man use their guns.
The last time they (*)(*)(*)(*)ed Hizbala so hard, Nassaralla said had he known, he would not have started that war.
I strongly advice him to use a lot of Vaseline next time he try attacking Israelis.