Historical mysteries:12,000 Years city in Kurdistan. older then Pyramids, and anythin

Historical mysteries:12,000 Years city in Kurdistan. older then Pyramids, and anything else
who lived there?

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Hannibal was a black , i hope that Afro-Americans will stop their empty speculations after watching this documentary

 

Wow, talk about fail. That statement was full of it.

Hannibal, like his father Hamilcar Barca was a Punic Carthaginian, descended from the Semitic Phoenicians in around 814 BCE. He was no more "Black" then Cleopatra was. And this is obvious when you look at contemporary coinage and busts.

Hamilcar Barca, coin circa 230 BCE:



Hannibal, coin circa 208 BCE:



Not remarkably different from coins from Tyre in Phoenicia, circa 125 BCE:

 

ye. the same goes to Egypt...the American Blacks play pharaohs in some of History channel "documentaries"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnp8IX4lXAU

 

Kortik Village artifacts.

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I know, and that always annoys the crap out of me.

Cleopatra was of the Ptolemaic dynasty, descended from one of the Macedonian Generals of Alexander the Great.

Like Alexander, Ptolemy I Soter was from Macedonia. His wife Berenice I was the matriarch of the Dynasty, and also from Macedonia.
Their son Ptolemy II married Arsinoe I, a Greek Princess.
Their son Ptolmey III married Berenice II, a Phoenician Princess.
Their son Ptolmey IV married his cousin, Arsinoe III.
Their son Ptolmey V married Cleopatra I, a Seleucid Princess (from Syria, a descendent of another of Alexander's Generals, Seleucus I Nicator)
Their son Ptolmey VI married Cleopatra II, yet another cousin.
Their daughter Cleopatra III married her uncle, Ptolmey VIII

And that is how it continues all the way with cousin marrying cousin, all the way to Cleopatra VII, the one that most recognize under that name. Every bit of her bloodline is pure Greek-Macedonian, not even a trace of Egyptian in it, let along Black.



Jest because somebody is from Africa, that does not mean they are Black.

 

http://www.museums.norfolk.gov.uk/Research/Collections/Archaeology_Collections/Seahenge/index.htm

 

what is behind of this myth? a bad elementary school, American hegemony, or ?
i m just waiting for a Hollywood movie with Will Smith in Tutankhamun´s role

 

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where did they come from? Ukraine ?
do you know that they had more advance civilization then Egypt?

 

Misplaced "Racial Pride", political correctness, and the same type of idiots that had "The Scorpion King" riding a horse and wielding a steel sword... in complete ignorance of real history.

And we already had that kind of thing burned into people's memories over 20 years ago, with Eddie Murphy.

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Back more to the original topic, this is often the case of more static civilizations, and the nomadic ones. Overall there are many more developments in a nomadic one because of the need to constantly adapt. But less are kept unless they are strictly functional, and many will be discarded and lost. In a more "civilized" community, the innovations will often move more and more away from survival, and towards things that simply make chores easier.

It would take a settled farmer to invent the noria or shadoof, but it would take a nomad to invent a composite bow, stirrup or travois.

 

i dont think so, they usually "took" development/ideas from other "more static civilizations," China , Persia, Indians civilizations(Indian numbers, gun powder) etc

 

Everything I know about Bedouin is that they have symbiotic relationship with settled villages because they need dates, grains, textiles... while their village needs meat, leather, camel or goat hair, salt....

 

But how many were functional? Well, pretty much all of them. Gunpowder never really caught on with nomads in ancient times, nor did elaborate siege machines. They would use what they could capture or buy, then discard them later because they could not manufacture gunpowder as a nomadic group. Most "Barbarians" did sieges with massive numbers of people and trenches, trying to starve out the other side. They did not go into mangonels, ballista and catapults like their more "civilized" contemporaries did.

India probably had the stirrup first, but it was little more then a looped rope for the toe. That was combined with the tree saddle in Mongolia and then expanded into what we think of today as stirrups.

The Bedouin had been semi-nomadic for thousands of years. A group may settle in an area for years, then when needed pack up and move again. And they were often traders and merchants, so some would settle in villages and cities while others conducted the transporting for the family/clan business.

The Bedouin are often fascinating, and you can see most of their precedents in the Bible itself. Wandering in from the desert, settling in a town or area for a few years or score of years, then wandering off into the desert again. A lot of the earliest tales match very well with the Bedouin lifestyle.

Jethro, Abraham, Jacob, the Bible is full of Bedouin archetypes.

But do not think it was always pastoral. The Bedouin could also be ruthless raiders as well, even making war upon a community for decades if they thought they had been offended (or thought they could get away with it). After all, this was the group that T. E. Lawrence had great success in recruiting from.

 

Yes, raiders, caravan merchants and trader as well as herders. In Arabia I saw many Bedouin up close over the years.... and they were affiliated with some 'bases' like a village with relatives or a particular oasis.

 

You're going to make people like Michelle Bachman and Sarah Palin angry......because the earth is only six thousand years old you know.

 

Then you have one of my favorites, the "Hive City" of Çatalhöyük.

A Neolithic city circa 7000 BCE in Anatolia in Turkey. It is among the strangest cities ever unearthed.



Occupied from around 7500-5700 BCE, it is unique in that it has no streets, no footpaths, no civic buildings, no buildings at all that are identified as anything other then dwellings and storerooms. There are also no doors, all access to the buildings was through hatches in the roofs of the buildings.

And it was also meticulously clean, with almost no rubbish or debris located inside of the buildings, but there have been extensive middens found outside of the city. And while they were spirirual, with rooms apparently set aside as shrines, there is no identifiable temple inside the city.

And the dead were apparently buried either under the floors of the dwellings, or under the hearths.

http://www.catalhoyuk.com/

A huge mystery, and completely unlike any other city ever found.

 

LOL) only in USA)

 

the Mongols (thought Hans, Rusins, etc.)were into those

 

They were an exception (I did say "most", not "all"). These skills were also not "native" among their people, they relied on captured engineers who they conscripted into their forces.

 

once, one of the biggest city , today no one even knows where it was...?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pereyaslavets

 

That's for sure, only in America.

 

Humans organizing themselves into permanent settlements apparently began much earlier than previously believed.
http://www.viewzone.com/adamscalendar.html