Holy Bible condemns homosexuality? YES!

You just completely blew off everything I said, including major church teachings, while calling ME arrogant?

Science and faith do not conflict, and the delporable analysis of atheists an their hypberbolic claims that would make it so are stupid.

And my thesis is quite clear: Homosexuals can do whatever they want, but when they cross into the realms of advocacy and demanding payment for their choices, they have a case to make and are not making it. They are instead lashing out against religion - as you do with utterly inane deliberate ignorance above - and ignore science that clearly demonstartes the unequal effect of children raised in homosexual families rather than herterosexual ones (at least in the aggregate).

Somehow, that means that I have to accept the literal terms of gensis as in a day (which I do not) ... when the main point is that God created the universe (which I do).

But your deliberate ignorance of my faith and its book should serve as the basis of policy? Rather than rejection for the obfuscatory hate fest that it clearly is? I'll stick with the later, thanks.

 

Anne Lamott? Oui, when I searched the quote I found the Reverend. I may have to do some more digging to authenticate. Thanks for the info.

 

Where did I say adultery should be treated differently? And from what?

I asked why we should pay attention to Leviticus 18 - which deals with sexual behaviors and human sacrifice -- when we ignore Leviticus 19, which deals with things like combining fibers and haircuts.

Feel free to answer the question I actually asked, not the one you imagine I asked.

 

If you like the book so much, you should follow the whole thing. Not just the parts you like.

Or you should just accept that other people don't like the same parts as you. Some, still, don't like any parts. And according to the book itself, only the ones who follow ALL the parts are correct. That leaves me and you out.

 

I am always curious about this also. When Christians cite Leviticus about homosexuals but say the rest of Leviticus doesn't apply anymore...well I have a hard time with the logic there.

 

And I will point out once again:

Jesus specifically condemns divorce
Jesus never condemns homosexuality

Yet which is the one that Conservative Christians spend their time decrying in the name of Jesus?

 

Agh the other changing goal posts of atheism.

You tell us what your thesis statement is, as its apparently utterly confused in everyone else.

 

If you are pretending to be objective, perhaps you should be instead of telling me how I should interprete my book and insult for me not blindly following your self serving interpretation that conflicts with standing ideology in the faiths largest sect.

Let me know when you are equivalent of Jesus himself. I realize that is exactly what many atheists think of themselves, but it just not true.

 

There are plenty of church sermons and material that condemns divorce kiddo. Try looking.

Ignorance of what is out there does not make your opinion fact.

 

lol...I just started another thread about this in response to the gay-bashing one.

http://www.politicalforum.com/current-events/270035-do-heterosexuals-believe-god.html

 

I am the equivalent of Jesus Himself except that I am more highly educated. But that's not Jesus's fault. There just weren't as many resources back then.

 

Arrogance defined. Better than the son of God himself. You actually sound far moe like Lucifer than Jesus, all your apparent education not withstanding.

 

Sometimes I feel like I am Jesus. Others I feel like I am Satan. Either one is fine by me. I'd just like to have some magical powers.

In fact, I will sell my soul right now to whichever of the two is willing to pay me by granting me super powers. I want the powers of Hyperstorm, an obscure character from the Marvel Universe who is the son of Franklin Richards and Rachel Summers is an alternate future. Any takers?

 

Interesting, you could just be yourself. But alas, as an atheist you would sell that which is most important, your soul, to any charlatan who gave you a piece of smoke rather than wisdom. Satan does indeed tell us there are those just like you out there, and indeed he does pray upon them.

Why else do you think that Satanists publically call themselves atheists?

I see that you have lost, and, in typical atheist fashion, have resorted to insults and blithe silliness to protect your ego.

Perhaps you should think through your positions a little in the future. It'll save you some embarassment, and the rest of us some vaccuous hot air.

 

You may have won this round, Neutral, but just wait until I have my super powers. Hyperstorm can control all the forces of nature and can even time travel. Which means I can go back in time and unplug your computer to prevent you from achieving your many Internet victories! Woe! LOL

 

Who says God has not given me super powers? How do you think I made it through two wars and several other conflicts? Unfortuantely, you will discover that I personally own the patent and all the inventory of flux capacitors, controlling all access to time travel regardless of faith instilled super powers.

Even the noodley arm of the FSM cannot help you there

 

LOL I have telekinesis and can dismantle your flux capacitors mentally from light years away (but instantaneously due to my command of quantum entanglement) and assemble my own out of dust and rocks!

 

I've stated it at least twice now. Why do believers cherry-pick the rules in the Bible they wish to follow? You accept Leviticus 18, but not Leviticus 19. How do you justify that?

 

And I will point out once again:

Jesus specifically condemns divorce
Jesus never condemns homosexuality

Yet which is the one that Conservative Christians spend their time decrying in the name of Jesus?

I know you portray yourself as a rational person looking for honest debate- so compare how many threads you have seen here on these boards telling us Homosexuality is condemned in the bible and how many threads have there been telling us that Divorce is condemned in the bible.

It is no contest. Based upon the threads started on these boards- Conservative Christians that are against homosexuality are obsessed with condemning homosexuality yet spend absolutely no time condemning divorce. If there are any Conservatives Christians on these boards who are against Divorce they have yet to start a single thread on the topic.

Yet of the two- Divorce is the only one Jesus specifically addressed and condemned.

As to your point- ignorance of what is on these boards does not make your opinion fact.

 

Still looking for an answer to this one.

 

Well, if you dismantel my flux capaciters you will not be able to travel through time ... as I hold the keys - an dthe patent mind you - I will simply sue you stop you from using my patented invention. I assure you, the patent goes back to before patents were even granted, making it quite impossible to get around the patent.

 

Oh no, beastility is certain in nowadays in Christian ciricles

 

I was unaware that people were out there attempting to make divorce a good thing? Demanding that the government pay them to get divorced? Calling Christians bigots for stating that divorce and the concept of throw away, discarbable relationships was bad?

Agh, but because YOU are focused solely on homosexuality ... so much everyone else be?

Well, the very fact that Christians state exactly what you state we do not indicates ...

http://www.request.org.uk/issues/topics/divorce/divorce01.htm

WAIT, I know, we should advocate divorce, not cousel against it and forgive it ... just like homosexuality, why that would set a pattern wouldn't it!

How dare we Christian not advocate homosexuality!!!

Deliberate ignorance.

 

You already have your answer kiddo.

Still waiting for you to explain how homosexuality is not a sin or how it magically produces well adjusted children with strong male and female role modles ... in a gender neutral setting. Go right ahead and make that case. Continue to ignore the actual Bible with superfluous idiocy ... continue to pretend that there is no new testament. Go right ahead.

And while you are at it, go rright ahead an explain how homosexuality isbeyond choice .. but every other deviant form of sexuality is not? Go right ahead.

 

Once again, the ignorant touting that somehow allowing people who are already homosexuals to get married is advocating homosexuality. If you don't want to advocate that homosexuality is an alright lifestyle, you should be advocating for putting homosexuals to death.