Homosexuality will never be or should be a Protect Class

Maybe you can clarify that a little more?




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The problem with this is... for it to work in the long run, to everyone's best long term interest, even the side that wins a "victory" has to hold the judges to account when they step outside their authority, now that we are so successfully divided, that will never happen. Too much short term and myopic focus.

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What part of this confuses you?

They took the word state and decided it meant this time something it has never meant and something it was never meant to mean. State is about the individual states, not the federal government.

They decided it was a federal issue, when the Constitution declares it is a state issue.

 

Yes, that's the part.




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On the same basis they decided that states do not have the authority to prohibit inter racial marriage

This ruling is no longer disputed...
Unless perhaps by you?

 

So what is the difference between "interpreting" and "reading into"?

Why then does the federal government have a Secertery of State? State like many words has a number of different meanings depending upon the context that it is used in. A country is also a state.

 

The decision is disputed by many including 4 other judges. The reason, states do have the sole authority based upon reading the Constitution. What the activist's did was say that the term state MEANT fed...and it did not.


Inter racial marriage and race issues, are federal. Comparing race issues and marriage issues is comparing oranges and apples.

 

So your view is that state DO HAVE THE AUTHORITY to prohibit inter racial marriage

 

They are both founded upon bias towards an entire group of people who are judged negatively for no other reason than they are different from the majority. Being black harms no one in and of itself, just as being gay harms no one in and of itself. What can harm others is subjugation for being different from the majority.

 

Not what I said...now is it. I love how the arguers on the left feel the need to reach into their hatred bag and make accusations that have zero basis to stand on.

The issue before the court was the authority of the fed...concerning perverts wanting to pervert marriage. The states had voted and decided marriage is one man and one woman, the libs/activists would not accept that, they know they had a chance with the court and they took it...Now the court chose to alter the meaning of another word STATE and decide it means the FED.

Nothing what so ever about inter racial marriage and your accusations are petty. Nothing new from the bitter, disgusting left.

 

Not judged, treated. People should not be treated differently because of the color of their skin, (unless of course they have red necks, in that case libs are free to hypocritically disparage). What the gay activist's are doing here is forcing their warped views on the populace, homosexuality is not like the race issue, people can choose to not be perverts, they cannot choose the color of their skin.

The fact that the left stoops to this ridiculous argument speaks volumes about the lack of character in the people arguing from the left side of the aisle.

 

How does one force their view on another? I argue that the majority forced its views on gays for 239 years while at the same time religion has had great freedom, overreaching power and influence in our society.

People do not choose to be gay, they are born that way. A gay person can no more choose to be straight than I can choose to be gay. Although some gay men and women have tried to be straight, its all an act to conform to the wishes of the Church, family and society... most gay men and women cannot hold that facade for long before they either come out of the closet or commit suicide because of some form of ostracization.

In my opinion its evil to try to make a gay person something that they are not then ostracize them when they take their own path. Being gay harms no one in and of itself and to judge gays as a negative is immoral by my measure or morality as such judgment can and does cause actual harm.

The way that we judge others says more about the judge than the judged. Judgment of ones character is relative to the individual. What is outstanding character to one will be anything but to another.

 

Given the numbers in recent polls, it is YOU who is trying to force your views of gay people on the majority of the populace.

And since when has "choice" disqualified people from rights. It's like saying that a person who chooses to own a Sharps rifle doesn't qualify for 2nd Amendment protections because less than 1% of firearm owners choose to own a Sharps ....

If an American chooses to be in a gay relationship, would that make her less of an American in the eyes of the law? NO. Americans first - gay second. Got it?

It's pathetic to listen to religious people whine and gnash their teeth about gay people asking for a cake, when religious people have specifically targeted gay people
with everything from prison, to stoning, to chemical castration, to firing them from their jobs and disrespecting their military service.

It's like the bully on the street who torments the neighbor's dog for years and then goes crying to mommy when the dog finally nips back.

Pathetic.

 

Are you saying a serial killer is born that way, and if he is he should be able to kill because it's not his fault.
People do chose to be gay. It's a choice. lucifer is deceiving them in that direction. If one is attracted to someone, it does not mean they have to have sex with them, or marry them. Sex and marriage is a choice. And now that this law has passed, lucifer is happy.
God on the other hand is very displeased, with this abomination and will judge accordingly. You don't have to believe, you will see soon enough.

 

God REALLY gets angry when people claim to be speaking in His name and claim special knowledge of His displeasure. He is making a list of people who will be put in a pit of acid rather than those who will be burned in hell.

- Excerpt from the Book of Mary, hidden in the vaults of the Vatican.

 

26 For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; 27 and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error.

32 Though they know God's righteous decree that those who practice such things deserve to die, they not only do them but give approval to those who practice them.

I am not speaking in his name. This is his words. It is an abomination. And obviously you know of his existence.

 

Of course I know of His existence. I consulted with His appendage on the gay matter, and was told that God created gay people for the same reason he created hummingbirds
and limestone instead of making the world all granite and blackbirds - God loves variety in ALL things. Deal with it.

 

WOW! How did you get that from 26 and 32 above. You consulted with his appendage huh.

There will be none in the Kingdom of God who did not choose to be there by their righteousness, and there will be none destroyed in the lake of fire who did not choose to be there by their wickedness.

 

Yep - He made us all and we all have a bent towards some kind of sin...We all are supposed to rise above it too. Deal with it by accepting others will not simply agree with you just to avoid being labeled haters by some people. We understand that disagreement is not hatred.

 

Those words are true, but no one is shamed or beaten into heaven, they are won over.

 

Forced how? By laws that protect a specific segment of the population, laws that are specific in nature, that nature being someones sexual preference.

That is nothing but a lie. Many people have a bent towards sleeping with as many people as possible, and they were born that way, but we as a society still recognize what damage it does to our society and those we love when we practice this perversion after committing to someone.

In my opinion...and based upon what God teaches...Perversions treated as a new normal hurt us all. I am not asking any gay person to change, I am saying I will not condone and accept this behavior as the "new" normal. The people are not being judged, their behaviors are.

I feel no differently about any of these people, adulterers, pedophiles, liars, thieves or homosexuals. I do believe we all sin one way or the other and all need a Savior. I do feel terrible about the results from these sins that we all commit. The big difference here is no one is attempting to make any of these
other sins a "new" normal and/or a "new" moral behavior.

 

Given the results of the actual votes on the actual issue...one man and one woman as the original and only term for marriage won everywhere it was voted on. That beats the hell out of skewed polls.

You know why it worked out that way when people were allowed to vote on it? Because they had no fear of being bullied by liberal activists when they voted their hearts...people still know it is a disgusting perversion despite the sales gimmickry and the cries from the gay activist's and their false accusations and their insults.

 

Conservatives or "right wingers" are not dragging people to court for "offending" them. It's your ilk that does that. Take your hypocrisy and Marxist indoctrination to another web site.

 

Don’t worry, rest assured, the Democrats are working on destroying the freedom of the internet. Obama and his administration already agreed to give control of the internet over to what they call the “international community”. They call it “net neutrality”. The “international community” would actually be a bureaucratic commission made up of goons nominated by the governments of Russia, China, Brazil and India. Even Newseek magazine had an article in which it said “Obama wants to give control of the internet to an international commission. But it could end up being controlled by China. Or Putin”. Newseek is not Fox News. So you can’t dismiss this fact as “panic and lies from Fox News”.

Bill Clinton and his vice president were exposed last year for planning to control the Internet, back in the late 1990s. That report from the Clinton administration was a classic conspiracy theory, on a tone of panic, stating that the Internet is used by right wingers and that there are many “hateful and radical” web sites. This, of course, justified government control and censorship disguised as regulation. The report was exposed to the public on Good Friday of last year. What a day! It looks like God has a sense of humor, as He confronts those who hate Him.

The liberal left wingers in the Democratic Party were waiting for the right time to censor the Internet. However, it didn’t happen during Clinton’s presidency. Obama did what Clinton was planning. The Obama administration has given control of the internet to an international commission of bureaucrats from Brazil, Russia, India and China. The left wingers and their globalist friends from the UN, use the term “international community”, to refer to that sinister commission. So it’s not just the governments of Iran and China that limit or censor the internet. The US government is also doing that.

 

It has everything to do with me. I believe in God and by doing so I acknowledge that you don't have to. However when society starts telling my children that it is ok to sin, well there is a problem. And the more accepting these sins become the more temptation for my children to endure. So even though I acknowledge freedom and God's word on believing in him, it does effect the populist.

 

God did not create gay people satan did. And in the Father's heavenly kingdom just like once here in America it will not be tolerated.