Horrible killing

Discussion in 'Abortion' started by Bluesguy, Nov 4, 2022.

  1. Jolly Penguin

    Jolly Penguin Well-Known Member

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    And why is that, if not for compassion and empathy?

    And how are you defining "being"?

    Yes, a freshly fertilized egg cell is human, because it has human DNA. Is it a being? It has more in common with a cancer cell than a baby at birth. Is the cancer cell a being?
     
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    And I ask the same of the pro-choice people here.

    Do you recognize that a baby just after birth isn't very different a being (there's that word again) as it was just before birth? Do you feel the same compassion for each? Is it a matter of competing rights where you prefer the mother's, or do you say the "child" just before birth should have no rights to consider at all?
     
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  3. Curious Always

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    Nobody aborts a baby in late 3rd term unless one of the two lives are in danger.
     
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    A human being is a unique human individual.
    a human being at his or her earliest stages of development has virtually nothing in common with a cancer cell!!!!

    you really need to read up on human biology!!!!
    CNN is not a qualified resource! .
     
  5. Jolly Penguin

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    Yes, but that's not what I asked. I am pro choice in most cases for that reason. It's usually done here very early. May vary wherever you live.
     
  6. Jolly Penguin

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    Not much no, but more than it has in common with a baby at birth. That's the point.
     
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    Curious Always Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I thought my answer made the answer to your question obvious.
     
  8. Jolly Penguin

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    It doesn't.
     
  9. Curious Always

    Curious Always Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nobody aborts while giving birth because it’s a freaking baby, able to breathe on its own. Better?
     
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    Is that your threshold? Ability to breathe on its own? Or do you feel it has any rights to consider at any time before that?
     
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    That is insane. What it has in common with a born baby is both were the same at one point!!!!
     
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    Didn’t we just have this talk last week? My personal line is first trimester. After that, if momma or baby’s life are in danger. This is a deeply intense personal decision.
     
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    1. No one is "pro abortion" we are pro choice. If a woman's choice is to not have an abortion I support their right to make that choice as much as I support the right of a woman to have an abortion.

    2. Please give me the definition of a Baby before we get into the debate of whether or not a 5 week fetus is a baby.
     
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    Define "human being" and then I will tell you.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    A fetus ( GLAD TO SEE YOU FINALLY KNOW WHAT TO CALL IT!) is NOT A human being as in legal person.


    Well ,yes it does....that's why you can't get a fetus a SSN...:)

    Science doesn't....science doesn't make laws...

    NOW

    SHOW PROOF THAT ANYONE DENIED "ANYTHING" IS KILLED IN AN ABORTION


    YOU CAN'T....but you keep saying it anyway ......how credible is that? Not credible at all.


    .NO ONE has denied that a fetus is killed in an abortion..

    IF anyone denied anything was killed in an abortion they wouldn't call it an abortion....stop the ranting and think....DUH!!!

    Something that's not alive cannot be killed...WHY TF does someone have to explain that to you???



    SHOW PROOF THAT ANYONE DENIED "ANYTHING" IS KILLED IN AN ABORTION


    YOU CAN'T....but you keep saying it anyway ......how credible is that? Not credible at all.
     
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  16. FoxHastings

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    It isn't but other poster thinks if he calls it a baby it can't be killed....it's an emotional trigger having nothing to do with facts
     
  17. Bluesguy

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    Having a SS number does not define being a human being...a person. Do you relaized there are billions of human beings on this planet that do not have SS numbers.
     
  18. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    I define it as science does a being of the homo sapien species. How do you define it
     
  19. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Do you support allowing abortion to be practice in this country. If you are anti-abortion please explain why.

    ba·by (bābē)
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    n. pl. ba·bies
    1.
    a. A very young child; an infant.
    b. An unborn child; a fetus.
    c. The youngest member of a family or group.
    d. A very young animal.
    https://www.ahdictionary.com/word/search.html?q=Baby
     
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  20. Nwolfe35

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    The American Heritage Dictionary? Well there is an unbiased source for you.

    Why don't we try Miriam Webster?

    baby
    1 of 3
    noun
    ba·by ˈbā-bē

    plural babies
    1
    a(1): an extremely young child
    especially : INFANT
    (2): an extremely young animal
    b: the youngest of a group
    He is the baby of the family.
    2
    a: one that is like a baby (as in behavior)
    When it comes to getting shots, I'm a real baby.
    b: something that is one's special responsibility, achievement, or interest
    The project was his baby.

    No mention of fetus here.
     
  21. FoxHastings

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    FoxHastings said:
    Well ,yes it does....that's why you can't get a fetus a SSN...:)

    Nope , and I never said it did ( your imagination at work again :) )

    A SSN does not define a person BUT YOU HAVE TO BE A PERSON TO GET ONE AND A FETUS CANNOT GET ONE.



    Yes, but if they are Americans and BORN they can get one.....
     
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    Stubborn right-wing focus on this issue is what cost us the red midterm tsunami we so desperately needed to save our country from progressive democrat ruin.
     
  23. Bluesguy

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    And

    Law: protection of the unborn child
    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/6551914/

    FEDERAL DEFENSE ATTORNEY EXPLAINS PROTECTION OF UNBORN CHILDREN
    https://www.lvcriminaldefense.com/usc/protection-of-unborn-children/







    Which do you believe these are using?

    Prenatal care is a very important step that moms should do to take good care of their unborn baby.
    https://www.safebabymonitor.com/take-care-unborn-baby/

    Right now, your OB or midwife is monitoring the health of your unborn baby.
    https://www.womenshealth.gov/pregnancy/getting-ready-baby/health-care-baby/

    What are the effects of drugs on an unborn child?
    https://www.webmd.com/baby/qa/what-are-the-effects-of-drugs-on-an-unborn-child

    How to Protect Your Unborn Baby from Infection
    During pregnancy, you are the sole lifeline to your baby.
    https://reverehealth.com/live-better/protecting-your-unborn-baby-from-infections/
     
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    So only Americans are human beings and only if they have a SS number. Does that mean anyone can kill illegal immigrants because they are not human beings?
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    Well ,yes it does....that's why you can't get a fetus a SSN...:)


    Nope , and I never said it did ( your imagination at work again :) )

    A SSN does not define a person BUT YOU HAVE TO BE A PERSON TO GET ONE AND A FETUS CANNOT GET ONE.





    Yes, but if they are Americans and BORN they can get one.....

    LOL your Desperation Imagination at work again !

    It's fun to watch you so selectively read another's post and MAKE UP what other's posted inaccurately to suit you.....but I established YOUR level of credibility in another post...(there isn't one)



    Ya know, ANYONE can see your level of comprehension (there isn't one ;) )
     

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