How do YOU define sexual harassment?

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What constitutes sexual harassment?

  1. Ribald jokes

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  2. Flirting

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  3. Any unwanted physical contact

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  4. Asking the other person out and not taking no for an answer

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    16.7%
  5. Other?

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    50.0%
  1. Bridget

    Bridget Well-Known Member

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    I would define it as any action or suggestions that imply that there will be either a reward or a punishment resulting from a co-worker having or not having sex with that person. That would be my standard as far as legality or civil suits are concerned.

    However, some behavior is inappropriate or piggish. In those cases, the underling has the right to say "you are disgusting and I'm not going to work for you anymore." Also, he or she is perfectly free to speak of the situation to whomever he/she would like, including online. So what goes around comes around. And private companies should be able to enforce whatever policy they like, "up to and including termination."
     
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  2. Junkieturtle

    Junkieturtle Well-Known Member Donor

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    Definitely unwanted physical contact. I would also include sexual comments, sexual messaging or meme sharing, etc etc, on social media, or persistent flirting that is unwanted.

    But the hard part of it is, I doubt there actually is a solid definition because what feels like harassment will vary from person to person. It will also be based at least in part on the personality of potential harasser and the relationship they have with the harassed.
     
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  3. Moi621

    Moi621 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    YOU beat me to it! ;)


    The work place is not a
    fashion try out area.

    Fashion, sexual allure, maybe a sweet perfume
    Isn't that "sexual harassment"? :drool:
    High hem line.
    Leggy boots
    Cleavage




    Moi
    :oldman:


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    The correct answer is: Other
     
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  4. Kal'Stang

    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

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    Sexual harassment for me is when it actually involves anything sexual related that is unwanted. Asking a person out, even if they say "no" and you do it again is NOT sexual harassment. It might be harassment, but not sexual harassment. The only reason to apply the word "sexual" to it is to make it seem worse than it actually is because sexual harassment brings connotations of rape. Which is highly looked down upon by the vast vast majority of the population.
     
  5. Kal'Stang

    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

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    The majority of married people often find their spouse in the work place. Can't exactly do that if they took your advice.
     
  6. VotreAltesse

    VotreAltesse Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes and time change. What was acceptable before isn't anymore, you can still try to meet someone at your workplace, but it's not the best idea, now there is internet to meet people, that has a lot of flaws but it's safer.
     
  7. Kal'Stang

    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

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    Yes... Let's change how people get together all for the sake of....what again?
     
  8. mentor59

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    If the women does not like you, almost anything can be interpreted as sexual harassment and is.

    I had a women accuse me of sexual harassment who I did not even find attractive! All I ever was, business polite. I never said as much as, "nice dress."
    She have said it for her own ego. Or, she may have really believed it. It is common for two people to view the same situation completely different. Should I not have been business polite?

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    As far as I am concerned, no line is crossed if someone is not touched or directly threatened by job discrimination.

    That someone is altered to the fact that you are interested in them, like in the Cuomo case, get the hell out of here, say your not and move on. Don't go on TV to get a guy fired. She should go to jail.
     
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    None of those are harrassment.

    Until someone is asked to stop.

    Then they all become harassment if continued.
     
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    yes, it also depends on the life experiences of both.
    A women who has previously been a sexual assault victim, for example, is likely to interpret most anything that occurs as a threat and unwelcomed.
     
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    Context is Everything.
     
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    Unwanted is a term often used here. Problem is we have people who want to categorize something as a crime before you even know it is unwanted.
     
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    WTF is a serial misogynist? You mean like the people who want grown men with a penis to be able to compete in women's sports? Or is that now progressive feminism?

    We have many terms for things but forced penetration is serious and we call that rape. The current president of the USA is a rapist.
     
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    I'm not speaking it as a morale obligation, but more as a convenience, you want to spare yourself a lot of drama on your workplace or even something that might make you lose a job ? Keep separate professional and love life.
    It's an advice, not an obligation.
     
  15. Reasonablerob

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    No, you can't say that, sometimes people do not get it. It has to be spelled out.
     
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    But you only realise that afterwards, otherwise you wouldn't have told it?
     
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    But if you do and think they reciprocate?
     
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    Misogynist? You mean womaniser? Which is not a bad thing any more than being a man-eater or cougar.
     
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    You cannot have sex with somebody without approaching them in some manner.

    Does Tom Hanks commit sexual assault on Meg Ryan in this clip? He touches her somewhat sensually. She is conflicted because she is in love with who she thinks is somebody else.

    According to some brain stems out there he committed outright assault.

     
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    AFAIK the word harassment refers to repeated acts.

    As a woman I don't mind some indication of attraction but if I say no, don't try it again.
    That would be harassment.
     
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    Perhaps start with: "would it offend you if I asked you for a date?" If he/she says "yes" respond with something like a smile and: "I'll make it a point to remember that." If he/she says no, good luck.
     
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    Wow.

    That philosophy degree is really paying off. You've got the bewildering yogababble down pat.
     
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    How about letting a door close on a woman expecting you to hold it for her? (Like a gentleman).


    Many races are very forward with sexual intentions, but who would dare interfere and get caught up in a racist-sexist-misogynistic bleep storm without a parachute?
     
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    No, because we have common standards within the workplace, namely that of a 'professional culture'. Knowing what sexual harassment in the workplace is dependent on that culture. In general a professional workplace culture doesn't allow for sexual harassment and they tell you what that looks like.

    Actually the idea of a political ecology comes from a book my sibling got me for Xmas.
     
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    I'd say its these two:
    Any unwanted physical contact
    Asking the other person out and not taking no for an answer

    Its not a crime for a guy to misread things and touch when she didn't want it. Its more about how major the unwanted touching and how much. Its really about empathy and being sensitive to her reactions.

    As for asking someone out, despite what movies and popular culture would have you believe, when a woman says no, 95% of the time she isn't interested and she never will. Just move on and find someone who is into you. The exception is when her body language clearly indicates that she is attracted to you, and she is open to you courting her a bit to get a yes.
     

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