How do you feel about profiling Muslims?

Discussion in 'Opinion POLLS' started by tecoyah, Dec 15, 2014.

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Should we profile?

  1. Yes...it is the logical thing to do.

    66.7%
  2. No...it is an attack on freedom.

    11.1%
  3. Perhaps somtimes if we know they are a threat.

    11.1%
  4. Other...I will explain.

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  1. tecoyah

    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I do not mean every Muslim, but those coming into the country (U.S, UK, France...etc) from areas prone to extremist individuals (Iran, Iraq, Saudi Arabia....etc..)should we pay additional attention and monitor?
     
  2. Crawdadr

    Crawdadr Well-Known Member

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    I have not seen where anyone puts their religion on any visa or form. So how exactly would we know they are Muslims? But I have no problem looking extra hard at anyone that comes from a country with extremists. Come on people are we just going to let the blond haired blue eyed extremists in while we check over the dark skinned guy with a beard?
     
  3. rangecontraction

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    Yes sir, Muslims MUST be profiled.

    It is clear that Islam poses a clear and present danger to the Civilised World.

    Men and women of ALL ages who are IslamoMuslim should be profiled. If a Muslim fails to give satisfactory answers as to the nature of their visit, it should be interrogated and strip searched. If the Muslim gets aggressive, it should be taken to a secure and hidden location, caged for 10 years and then deported. If the potential terrorist attempts to escape within those 10 years, it should be shot on site. WE MUST SHOW ZERO MERCY!!

    IslamoMuslim Terror is a clear and present danger to humanity. If we don't stamp it out, we will regret it.

    Muslims MUST have a legitimate reason to go to countries such as USA, Europe etc. Such reasons include conversion to Christianity / Judaism or defecting from their Terror Countries. Such Muslims should be allowed in, once proof is given.

    The following IslamoManiac places should be profiled: all Arabs, the Iranians, the Afghans / Pakistanis, Somalians.

    PROFILING IS GOOD. PROFILING PROTECTS FREEDOM LOVING CHRISTIANS, JEWS AND HINDUS.... ALL OF WHOM THE MUSLIMS TERRORIZE.
     
  4. CircleBird

    CircleBird Banned

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    We should just pay attention to anyone coming from certain countries. Regardless of their outwardly apparent religious affiliation.

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    How would you profile a Muslim?
     
  5. tecoyah

    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    ...uh...ask? Look at the data obviously being accumulated....and pay attention to Abdul rather that Ethel from Indiana.

    We call this profiling. Paying more attention to threat then benign individuals.
     
  6. Arxael

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    That depends on what you mean by "additional attention and monitor". If you are referring to having the absolute right to bug, spy, and violate their rights, then no I don't.

    If you mean going through legal means that the government can use to keep an eye on someone (warrants, etc.) than I'm ok with the "extra" attention.
     
  7. tecoyah

    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There are Counties/areas that are far more likely to produce people prone to this type of mentality, and every one of them is a predominantly Muslim Nation. Let's just drop the PC Dogmatic BS.

    Muslims are not all terrorists...but, all the terrorists are Muslim.

    Thus those outside the Religion...fear it's influence on society.
     
  8. Miklos

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    When I ask someone to guess what percent of Muslims are there in the US people usually say from 20 to 40 percent. In fact it's less than 1%! I wonder what it will be like when it rises to 30-40 percent?
     
  9. Crawdadr

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    Ok so how do you tell the muslim from the nonmuslim?
     
  10. ArmySoldier

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    It works well in France. The French have foiled many terror plots since implementation of the profile laws, also, it's forced the muslims to practice their extremism elsewhere. They know they get in trouble for spreading muslim propaganda in France so they are packing up and leaving.
     
  11. tecoyah

    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We begin with country of origin...I thought that was pretty clear, thus the whole Profiling concept. Are you seriously this deft.
     
  12. Crawdadr

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    No but in most countries even ones such as Saudi Arabia there are people who are not muslims. Now I have no problem giving extra security to ANYONE who comes from one of those countries. But trying to figure out who is a muslim just by looks or home country is impossible.
     
  13. tecoyah

    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Fine...let's say "Muslim Countries"...works for me.
     
  14. Crawdadr

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    Ok, that makes sense
     
  15. Californian

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    Using home country is fairly easy to determine religion:

    93% of Saudis are Muslim. 94% of Egyptians, 96% of Pakistanis, 97% of Algerians, 98% of Turks, 99% of Iraqis, 99% of Iranians, 99% of Afghans, 99% of Morrocans, and so on.

    By looks it is also easier than any other religion due to their extensive clothing requirements, especially for women.

    So are you saying, of the two people below, you would not know what religion they are?

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  16. Crawdadr

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    Due too Sharia law in some countries that woman may have no choice same with the man. BUT that is also cultural dress they could both be Christians but culturally they dress as those around them dress. Either way if that guy changes into an Armani suit he could be from Brooklyn and who knows what the woman would look like. The terrorist is going to dress how they think will allow them to get through. I am less worried about those two then if they were in jeans and T-shirts.
     
  17. Californian

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    That isn't the point. You said and I quote "But trying to figure out who is a muslim just by looks or home country is impossible." I'm simply saying it is entirely possible and actually quite reliable.

    Also, there is little division between culture and religion in most Muslim countries. Their culture is defined by their religion. A Christian Saudi dressing as a Muslim is improbable as "The percentage of Saudi Arabian citizens who are Christians is officially zero as Saudi Arabia forbids religious conversion from Islam and punishes it by death."
     
  18. Crawdadr

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    A Christian Saudi is most likely hiding their religion and most definitely would dress in traditional garb when required. We cannot tell a terrorist by looking at them and we cannot tell someones beliefs by looking at them because looks can be changed. I have no problem with extra monitoring of people that arrive from countries where we have had issues. But it is dumb to assume that just because someone dresses a certain way or has a certain skin tone that they could be terrorists. The 9/11 terrorists dressed in blue jeans/slacks and shirts all american store bought. You would stop the people above before them simply because of their dress. Ridiculous.
     

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