How is 'livable wage' defined?

And by bootlicking, you're in the best position to get his trickledown. You've fulfilled your purpose in life. The CEOs own America, they've got the paper to prove it; so you can be proud that you're doing things the American Way.

 

He's in his fix because the other people who followed that advice didn't get their jobs because of talent and therefore wrecked the economy. If they had belonged in their positions, they would have been recruited out of high school, not told the absurd command to get a job by going four years without a job.

That class-biased indentured servitude puts inferior people in superior positions, dragging down everyone under them and wiping out opportunities for any future employees. How dare you ask a man to work without pay, which is all this obsolete aristocratic system means? Tuition is paid to the university, so that's not an answer; the student has to live like a child and will never grow up if he puts himself in that position.

The rich thieves should preach what they practice. They know perfectly that living in college poverty is unnatural; that's why they make sure their spoiled, no-talent brats have plenty of money to live on. That tells us the way college should be done. But then everybody would prepare to go and only the most talented would be admitted, just like in college football. Most of the children of the rich and all the brown-nosing wannabes who subject themselves to this insulting humiliation the way it is now would not make the cut if it was designed to attract talent. If someone is not highly paid when he is in college, then he isn't worth anything. This institution is the best proof that we live in a society based on birth and not worth.

College education is a fraud and should not be rewarded. It is pretty selfish and anti-American to glorify it because of how much the preppies and their flunkies make. That doesn't answer the only reason it should be allowed, "Does it benefit the rest of the society to have such people become 'successes'?"

No way. If our economy was based on developing our football talent, would it benefit us to have the college athletes live like the rest of the students? Again, only preppies and wannabes would be playing.

You're just repeating the preaching told to us by our illegitimate ruling class. We should never listen to them, or to their parrots either.

 

That calculator is SO full of crap. $242/month for food? Over $1,000/month for housing? Almost $300/month for transportation? Where the hell do these numbers come from? A VTA monthly pass is $70. A 100-square-foot room in a house can run you $400/month. I spend maybe $30-$50/month on food.

There is no such thing as a "living wage"; there is only the inability to budget.

(all numbers are for Santa Clara County, by the way)

 

Do you really believe that the people in power don't control and limit the ideas you post here? They give us a multiple choice test and all the answers are wrong. They keep the right answers to themselves, so we fail. Why give us any ideas about what is really going on?

"None of the above" is not allowed and the illegitimate ruling class makes sure that answering that way makes you look like some kind of wacko. Most of the lamed, tamed, and trained Netties who reply to me imply, "I've never heard of that before, so it must be stupid."

If you heard of someone, don't listen to him. The regime's hired mouthpieces provide us with the best ideas money can buy. These people must be totally disempowered, and of course, not by any method that they themselves suggest we use.

 

Are you talking about the mods/admins, or the Jewish space lizards who run the Illuminati? One controls what I'm allowed to post here. The other doesn't.

 

Tell that to the children of the rich. Make them do what they make us do, and things will change if they have to get ahead without Daddy's money, because all this is set up just for them right now. Familyism is more primitive than tribalism, which makes us weaker than Third World countries if we allow it much longer. This is our country, not theirs. Only in a child's game does paper cover rock. Confiscate their paper, which is in pixels right now. Hack and sack, or the barbarians will sack us.

 

What the hell...

...the words are English, but the sentences make no sense...

 

Can you imagine a preppie or someone on the college football team saying that? Are those the people we want getting ahead? Did they choose to be born rich or with athletic talent? So why do they tell only us to make choices?

Even those without talent would be much better off if we took away the ruling class's command economy on employment and recruited the best talent, whom we are totally dependent on if we are ever to have widespread prosperity.

Everybody here brags about "Here's what I did." How does that benefit society as a whole, to make each man for himself and reward workoholic Greedhead zombies? The fact that they never say, "Here's what I accomplished on my job for my customers," proves that all they care about is gettinga good job, not about doing a good job. And the absolutely lowest of the low are those who, in effect, have their Daddies buy them their jobs.

 

I'm really fed up with the hypocrisy of one-sided criticisms. The aristocrats are the biggest parasites of all and that's what makes many real Americans cynically follow their example.

How are the children of the rich owed anything by their Daddies? Are you one of those vets who would be "proud to die taking a rich kid's place"? If you don't include the slime that oozed out of the rich man's trophy wife as lazy freeloading moochers pulling the most destructive scam of all, then get out of America and go back to the crumbling castles of Europe where you belong. Unlike Bush, your father's friend served on active duty, so he's "cheating" by getting what he really deserves. Chickenhawks deserve to get deep fried.

 

But how long did the average minimum wage worker earn minimum wage for? I think you are under the belief that people earn it for more then 6 months before leaving a job or getting a raise, which is inaccurate - pre Obama at least.

 

Just because your daddy didn't leave you anything doesn't give you the right to steal from someone else who is working hard to give their kids more then you could ever dream of. That is America. If you want to cry about equality of results, go live in Cuba. You can be as dirt poor there as the next guy.

 

Whatever your worth to your employer.

 

CE Courses are two nights a week for 3 months, and tuition is subsidized for the unemployed.
It isn't the college education you are ranting about, but a direct course to prepare you for a certain job.
The last time I looked there were 10 immediate openings where I am locally for the job I suggested he prepare for.

Again ... All you ever have is a manacle rant about people who achieve, and a certain disgust for all things productive.
Better yet ... Let me know when your philosophy on individual economic success gets you what you are looking for.
Let me know when punishing success and making excuses for failure helps you find a better life.

 

Class envy...thought as much.

 

You know it when you live it.

 

so what happens when people choose to divert $$ from the rent budget, utilities budget, etc, and buy ciggerrettes, $500 iphones, and $150 shoes.

Welfare won't pay for the fun stuff, so use your budget for the fun stuff and let the american taxpayer support your "necessities"

 

A lone man? Sure, very easy to have them killed.

But a hundred? A thousand?

It may sound a little far fetched right now. But that is only because we haven't gotten desperate or angry enough to act yet.

The way things are going, I think it's only a matter of time. There will be HEAVY casualties on both sides, but the lower middle class and poor VASTLY outnumber the rich.

I hope I don't have to see it.

 

A good point. I know it will take a long time to change our culture and morals into one that encourages more self-responsibility.

But what do we do with the people in the mean time?

There are a great many of them. They may not want to learn or change. But I am pretty sure they want to live and be happy, and will do whatever they have to, legally or otherwise, to live and be happy.

Call it extortion. I suppose it is. But it's either compromise a little now while working on making the long term changes needed, do nothing and let things fester until they get fed up and act on their own, or eradicate them now as a waste of resources.

Or do you see another option I am missing?

 

Your pathetic attempt at mocking me proves that the ruling class has controlled your mind long before this blog ever appeared. From cradle to grave, they tell you what choices you have, all of which increase their power and humiliate you. That includes the choice of what thoughts sound intelligent. The fact that you want to think I'm only talking about PF or some intentionally wacko site created by the Conspiracy to Create Conspiracy Theories proves that you are afraid to confront the ruling class. To question the right of the ruling class to rule is like someone brought up to believe in God afraid of becoming an atheist. And God didn't put these people in power over us. So accepting the status quo is not a religious duty.

Why is it so hard to admit that you've been fooled? That doesn't make you a fool, continuing to believe that the authority of the powerful is well-deserved is what makes you a fool.

 

Why envy corporate Greedheads who have to live with the fact that their trophy wives and trophy kids only love them for their money? Why envy
these workoholic madmen whose ulcers are almost as big as the tumors they will get from stress? Why envy an Heirhead who has to live his whole life knowing that without his Daddy's money, he'd be a nobody and a loser?

 

However much the liberals can steal from the productive to give to the unproductive without causing a war...

 

what has appeasement gotten for the taxpayer to this point? NOTHING... MORE ABUSE.

why would appeasing MORE all of a sudden turn that trend around?

if you buy the fun stuff with your McDonald's wage.... you can then complain you don't have enough to make necessities and can try and extort more money from people who are making good economic choices.

I have no issues helping someone like the 3 kidnapped girls in cleveland who are now faced with a life without a Diploma, or any working exerience at ages 21-28.... that sucks and was out of their control.

I have no issues helping the35 y.o. , 65 IQ guy who's parents die and he has noone left to take care of him.


I do have a problem with the guy who dropped out of H.S., has $1000 worth of tattoo's down their arms, $500 iphone 5s, $200 nike, and then complaining they don't have enough to feed their 4 kids or rent.


My g/f's ex-hubby lives in a rent controlled apartment across the road from my g/f's luxury apartments. She pays $1200 a month. He pays $300 a month.

Both have pools, hot-tubs, gyms, gated communities.

Why better himself? he's a highschool dropout and he has everything his master's degree'd ex-wife does

 

Sorry, I don't know Bootlickese very well. But your Masters better quit claiming that they are not a government ("Because we can't arrest you if you disobey us"), because one of the few things the First Amendment doesn't allow is advocating violent overthrow of the government. Admitting that the private sector is a government will protect the plutocrats from the Second Amendment.

 

I don't have a problem with such a temporary slavery. In fact, it's the only kind I recommend for the people with the most talent. Being all you can be is for suckers. Unless someone is talented in sports, our ruling class makes him punish himself before they allow him to be rewarded.

Only Mamas' Boys suck their thumbs in college, working 4-12 years without pay and living like 12-year-olds because they are afraid to grow up. Rewarding such worthless brown-noses by giving them jobs the rest of society depends on having brains and not brown-noses doing is the sole cause of our race to the bottom. Also they are slavish peasants, who never should have been allowed in America. The motivation for such a sheepish flock is that these wannabes hate their fathers for not getting rich and spoiling them. Only people stuck on such an infantile family resentment would tolerate the fact the children of the rich, whom they want to be their adopted brothers, get the equivalent of a salary to go to college in the form of an allowance. If we don't pay someone a salary in college, he isn't worth anything. He brags about getting a good job, but it is only worth it to the rest of us if he can brag about doing a good job. I never hear your "successes" do that.