How is NWO a conspiracy theory?

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  1. ATruthSeeker

    ATruthSeeker New Member

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    Tony Blair.. Bush Sr.. Rumsfield have all talked about it.. just because something is a conspiracy doesn't make it a conspiracy theory...
     
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    Also

    obama, pelosi, hoyer, and the clintons, have spoke about this....
     
  3. Hannibal

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    And Curtis Mayfield and Kevin Nash and Scott Hall and Hulk Hogan ...

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    Cuz it is so utterly absurd to think that the rich/elites could or would be able to control the world with their influence, power, and of course their wealth. So silly.
     
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    How is that silly?

    Big money is running the world right now...
     
  6. BuckNaked

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    Sorry, sarcasm alert;

    Cuz it is so utterly absurd to think that the rich/elites could or would be able to control the world with their influence, power, and of course their wealth. So silly.

    There, that better? :lol:
     
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    Ahh, but they do

    You mean to tell me that wall street dont run washington?
     
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    All politicians have use the term 'globalisation', and they often tell the people that there is no way back. 'NWO' sounds fearful (new world order), it's a cover for what it really stands for, empire. But imperialists don't use the real word because they do not want you to look into how e.g. the three European empires were caused (by a group of people not by an individual) Caused, because empires do not just happen, they were/are all preplanned, as the one the world is heading for right now (you can recognize by the imperialistic/idological colours red, white, black and all the artifical things, Google, Youtube, the news media, in commercials, the many black cars, all not just happen by coincidence.
     
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    Still not getting it eh??

    Let's try this. Follow the money and that will lead you to the people in charge of all organized criminal activity. Every time.
     
  10. BullsLawDan

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  11. ATruthSeeker

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    It seems unfair for it to be labeled as a conspiracy just because most politicians changed their term for it. NWO is alive and well and can be proven to be so. If politicians start calling America Amorica, will saying "America" be a conspiracy theory? This truly amazes me.. We even have one politician with a theme song that mentions NWO.. He is second on reuters last national telephone survey of GOP candidates btw:)
     
  12. fifthofnovember

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    You say that in jest, yet it was another globalist, Ted Turner, who fed that crap to the masses, just so people like you could laugh about the New World Order and say how silly the idea is. Pure psychological warfare.
     
  13. ATruthSeeker

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    I think some people are happy in there little box. Maybe Newt will let me live in his moonbase once things get more carried away down here, hehe.
     
  14. BullsLawDan

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    It's labeled as a conspiracy when people start suggesting there is a global conspiracy to create a "one-world government" and do things like limit the population or destroy American sovereignty. It's just nonsense.

    And, the REAL problem comes when people start thinking that one-world government, or any arrangements with other nations, are inherently bad.

    There will always be treaties and arrangements between people who have common interests, and there's nothing inherently wrong about that. Cooperation among nations can be very beneficial.

    It conspiracy theory nonsense to simply reject a blurring of borders on that fact alone. Each time there is cooperation of nations, a rational person looks at that cooperation and determines on a case-by-case basis whether it is beneficial or something that should be opposed.

    It's also conspiracy theory nonsense to spout off things that are just plain untrue, like the nonsense videos you'll see on the internet where people have supposedly taken pictures of "FEMA camps" or where people allege certain international agreements are the foundations of a super-national "NAU" or "Amero". (Super-national meaning lowering of sovereignty such as the USSR or EU)

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    I'm not even sure how to address something so ridiculous. As well as pro-wrestling history can be documented, which is quite well, we know that Ted Turner had no involvement in the day-to-day operations of the WCW. The nWo was a brainchild of Eric Bischoff, who was a big fan of New Japan Pro Wrestling. NJPW had, right before nWo, done an "invasion" angle whereby they pretended another wrestling organization had "infiltrated" theirs, to great success. At the time, WCW was in heavy competition with the WWF, and Bischoff had the brilliant idea, along with WCW writers, to make up an angle where former WWF wrestlers would "invade" WCW and "take over."

    I mean... Are you seriously suggesting this? I have to think it's a joke.
     
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    Sounds like you are saying that there are conspiracies but there are no conspiracies??
     
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    There first two stated missions of the trilateral commission according to there website:

    1:Growing interdependence is a fact of life of the contemporary world. It transcends and influences national systems. It requires new and more intensive forms of international cooperation to realize its benefits and to counteract economic and political nationalism.

    2:This interdependence, especially among Japan, Western Europe, and North America, generates new problems and frictions which endanger not only their well-being but affect adversely the other regions.

    So clearly our sovereignty is on the line. I am going to take the words of Thomas Jefferson to heart instead of BullsLawDan, when he said

    "Peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none ".

    He seems to be a much more valid source for this type of information then Dan here.
     
  17. BullsLawDan

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    Says you. I say, sounds like an organization of private citizens that looks to foster international cooperation.

    Do you deny that growing interdependence is a fact of life of the contemporary world? I would say, to say that in 1973, the Trilateral Commission was ahead of their time.

    To show our sovereignty is on the line, you'd need to show this group is actively working to cede our sovereingty to some other authority, and that they have the means to succeed (because if they don't have any chance of doing it, there's no threat).

    I understand you have a strong confirmation bias to overcome, a shared psychological trait of conspiracy theorists, and I also understand the other beliefs that have led you to these conclusions, I used to be there myself. But, in order to move on, you'll have to accept that, in the words of Freud, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
     
  18. ATruthSeeker

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    Have you heard of a little thing called the United Nations? I have a strong bias to overcome? lol... *points mirror at Dan*
     
  19. ATruthSeeker

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    It is really sad to me that anyone mentioning conspiracy has to post it on this forum, provable or not. Watergate still has to be posted here.. "conspiracy theory" has become such a propaganda term like "drugs". tobacco and alcohol? thats not a drug! I hope one day in the future the mindless drones of the world are persecuted in a manner such as this. A real witch hunt you guys have on your hands here.
     
  20. BullsLawDan

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    Umm... The United Nations? Sooooo what? How does a public, world-wide organization of nations give support to a conspiracy theory that a group of people are secretly trying to create a one-world-government?
     
  21. ATruthSeeker

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    What do you think a government is, Bulls?
     
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    A societal organization to which individuals cede some of their rights in order to take advantage of collective benefits, which is in the best case representative of and responsive to the demands of those individuals.

    We have not ceded any of our rights to the UN, and there is nothing on the horizon outside of kook message boards indicating we plan to at any time in the future. Our membership and compliance with the UN is voluntary, and in fact the United States has on past occasion violated UN edicts (with no repercussions).
     
  23. ATruthSeeker

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    Our constitution states:
    "No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State."

    Obama is now the chairman of the UN. Are you one of these people that think the constitution is outdated?

    We go to war based on UN resolutions without even consulting congress! There is a push for a global currency(ever heard of economic sovereignty?) as well as a global army.
     
  24. BullsLawDan

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    So what? No one has received a title from a foreign State.
    Huh? Where the hell are you getting this from?

    Obama is in no way, shape, or form "chairman of the UN".

    But thank you for proving that people who think there is some big "NWO" conspiracy can't even be bothered to get their facts straight.

    No. Why would you suggest that?
    When?
    A push by who? Where?

    This is the problem with you tinfoil-hat types. It's all these blanket statements posited as if true, but with no evidentiary support whatsoever.
     
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    http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/228189/obamas-un-gambit-king-universe-and-polls/anne-bayefsky

    chairman
    [chair-muhn]   Origin
    chair·man
       [chair-muhn] Show IPA noun, plural -men, verb -maned or -manned, -man·ing or -man·ning.
    noun
    1.
    the presiding officer of a meeting, committee, board, etc.
    2.
    the administrative head of a department in a high school, college, or university.
    3.
    someone employed to carry or wheel a person in a chair.
    verb (used with object)
    4.
    to act as or be chairman of (a meeting, committee, etc.).

    I have had enough insults. Yeah i wear a tinfoil hat. your a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing idiot, research g20.
     

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