How Mail-in Voting Works

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Sleep Monster, Sep 24, 2020.

  1. ButterBalls

    ButterBalls Well-Known Member

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    It certainly indicates problems, WELL I would think :roll:
     
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    Fedx here is trash as well every since they started using third party contractors to supply their delivery drivers. My Fed ex express guy still works for fed ex though and they are excellent. Of course that does not mean your fed ex guy isn't good, but we have had I think nine different guys in two years. UPS you could set your watch to, and as you say, USPS is the worst. Seems to be a theme with government employees. Not who I would trust an election to for sure.
     
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    There are more reports than that in this thread alone.
     
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    ButterBalls Well-Known Member

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    I get ya. FEDX are independents, but UPS, and FEDEX are rock solid! I had a contract that absolutely need to be in New York next day, midnight Friday and UPS did me right and I was 39 grand richer on Monday! I had three meat and cheese trays delivered to the UPS store the next day, don't know if they ate them or not, but I was very grateful!!!!
     
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    What if you were not secure in your own home? That's my point. What if you lived in fear of gang violence/organized crime that demanded to see how you vote or face the consequences? You might say you would just call the police, but when budgets are slashed and police can't investigate or won't investigate, then what?

    All this might seem outlandish now, but if mail in voting becomes the norm, criminals/politicians/unions WILL figure out how to use it to their advantage.

    I would feel secure in my home too. I live in the country and am well armed and have good security systems, etc. Those living in inner cities probably are not as fortunate.
     
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    News flash: Trash containers are not considered "authorized ballot depositories" in any state. At least not that I know. Alaska sometimes has some weird rules nobody has ever heard of. They might allow voters to cast their votes in the trash... who knows... But they only have 3 electoral votes so... If you find any in a garbage can there, I'll concede Alaska to Trump, if that's the problem.
     
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    It's what doesn't get verified that corrupts the process, and that's what happens with mail-in-voting. Neither the voter or the voter's ballot gets properly verified. The whole mail-in-voting charade is a sham designed by Democrats to cheat and steal the election.

    Your support of mail-in-voting only further justifies my claim, because the only reason to support it, is if you think it will help your cause, and hamper the cause of your opponent.

    We will never have a fair voting process until we enact strict in-person voter ID; and that can't happen with mail-in-voting.
     
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    Numerous reported problems with mail in voting and you keep insisting there is no problems with mail in voting.

    I will explain something about statistics and electoral colleges. There is a much more likely chance that voter fraud or uncounted ballots in the electoral college system causing a problem than there is in the popular vote. In the 2016 election, there was only about a 2% difference in popular vote. There was a 12% difference in electoral vote. All fifty states have the potential of having their electoral votes changed by just a very few votes. However, on average each state accounts for 2% of the total electoral votes. And, of course in some states it is much higher. A very few popular votes translates into a much larger percent of electoral votes.

    I will summarize. It takes very few popular votes to cause major differences in the electoral college votes..
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Great question. Why didn't you answer it?
     
  12. Bluesguy

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    Why are outside groups handling and having access to ballots AT ALL?
     
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    Stop with the canard it has to be massive to affect and election outcome.
     
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    Look. Don't be ridiculous.

    In 2018 there was ONE case of mail-in voter fraud: His name was Bret Warren.

    In the 2016 elections there were four: Anthony Grant (mayor of Eatonville), James Randolph and Mia Antoinette Nowells, who are Republicans.
    https://www.orangeobserver.com/article/eatonville-mayor-indicted-voter-fraud-charges

    And Deszi Marquis Hayes
    https://www.theledger.com/news/20161119/report-felon-voted-illegally-from-florida-jail

    That's going to tip an election?

    You are being used. Manipulated by a criminal President* who is desperate because he knows he's going to prison if he doesn't win the elections. So his last resort is to... somehow... create doubts about the election so that maybe he can find a way to perpetuate himself in power.

    Don't fall for it! Vote for him if you must, but stop echoing this crazy man's anti-American rhetoric. You said you don't like what he says, but you like what he does. Well now he's convinced you to echo what he says. Precisely what you said you don't like.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Who says they are handling or having access to the ballots?
     
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    And yet some were found is a trash can! Man, some times I simply don't understand your replies :no::wierdface:

    Agreed no big whoop, but still your post is actually more interesting and illuminating then the article is really ¯\_(º¸º)_/¯
     
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    The problem is fraud and mistakes.
    https://www.npr.org/2020/08/22/9046...e-ballots-rejected-in-2020-far-outpacing-2016

    But, I can see what will happen in November already. Trump will initially win the election. Then the democrats will start disputing all the thrown out ballots, most of which will be democratic votes because democrats will vote by mail in much longer numbers. Then, they will blame it all on Trump because that is what democrats do.
     
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    So?

    Thank you.
     
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    For starters, because I was asking rather than answering a question, on top of that, it was a rhetorical question. Do you make a habit of answering every question that you ask? I find your question to be odd to say the very least.
     
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    You.............DUH

     
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    Well it was a odd reply even for you..
     
  22. ButterBalls

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    I read your post, you clearly didn't leave much wiggle room for Spin, but it was a terrific point though, real SHOW STOPPER ;)
     
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    Looks like you discovered the power of projecting.
     
  24. Golem

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    You might have meant it to be rhetorical. It's not!

    So why do you refuse to answer your own question?
     
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    Who is most likely to vote by mail?

    Which votes are more likely to be contested?

    Honest answers would be appreciated.
     

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