How Much Blame Should Go To Trayvon Martin's Parents ?

Some 20 years ago I locked myself out of a vacation condo over on Hilton Head to go and buy groceries before 7 AM.. When I got back I couldn't get in.. So I climbed the drainpipe and wrought iron to reach the second floor balcony and let myself in thru the French Doors. Thank God there was no idiot security guard watching me.

The dumb ones are incorrigible.

 

Looking for trouble would mean Travon was dangerous. Are you admitting T was a dangerous person? If so, why would an innocent kid just walking home after getting some food be dangerous? Lets be reasonable and imagine Zimmerman wouldn't think a teenager would attack him after exchanging a few words. Normal people simply don't start fights and it would seem rather odd for Zimmerman to start a fight in front of his neighbors AFTER calling 911 with the intent to shoot and kill the kid. Your odds of a witness seeing the whole thing or the cops rolling up as it was happening would've been quite high, blowing your whole "plan".

I'd certainly want neighbors who would be willing to actually CARE where a suspicious person was walking, since calling the cops about someone you think looks suspicious doesn't have them come running instantly, unless you're catching them in the act.

 

Trayvon was 100% responsible for his own thuggish behavior.

His parents are sorry excuses for human beings, but Trayvon had the chance to learn to be better by going to school, but reverted back to primal ways by hunting for stolen goods and gathering them up. When casing the neighborhood, Zimmy confronted him and St. Trayvon responded with violence.

Stand your ground against thugs.

 

NW is usually very successful.. They let the police do their job.. They don't play cops.. That's why since the 1970s they have been a first rate outfit that doesn't shoot neighborhood teens.

George's crime is stupidity and paranoia.

 

More like Z was indeed following the kid(which isn't against the law by the way), they had some words(NOT against the law) and the kid being a hoodlum in training(considering his history, lousy family, lousy grades) attacked Zimmerman(THAT'S against the law), since that's what hoodlum kids do all the time. Then Z had to shoot him or risk having his head smashed in, which is something hoodlums often do to people they don't like.

If Z was just looking to shoot the kid like you claim, his face and head wouldn't have been messed up, because he would've walked up said hi and shot him in the chest. And he certainly would'nt have called 911 first or done it right in front of his neighbors.

So your version of events seems rather nuttballish.

 

George didnt' break any laws leading up to what happened.

 

So are you a night watchman or do you work in a mall?

 

Nor did Trayvon..............

 

however you define your rhetoric is up to you. poppycock seems appropriate.

 

George was not playing cop. He followed correct security procedure.

 

I think that Zimmerman's parents are the responsible parties here. They obviously raised a son who was not only a woman beater, but also a sissy and generally a really nosey little prick. He profiled and chased down a 17 year old kid who was minding his own business, caught him and evidently got his ass kicked by him, then turned around and killed him in cold blood. Zimmermann's parents should get adjoining cells with their loser of a son.

Cheers

 

1. NW protocol is most often derived from police departments who don't know squat about security in general. They also don't know about the security person's post as well as that security person (if they know anything about it at all). Police have a general rule. They want to be in complete charge of everything. That's why they are often in favor of gun control. They would like nobody to have guns except them. All of this may make the police more comfortable, but it does not make for good security. Too bad NW groups haven't figured this out yet.

2. If the NW protocol says George shouldn't have been following anyone, then they are flat WRONG. As a trained and licensed security professional, I have been right about this from the onset, and you just haven't caught on. You still think the police are the point of reference for security procedure (that is laughable), and that is why you keep getting it WRONG. It is also wrong for the security person to be out on patrol without a gun, even though on some jobs I've done that. The lack of a gun for protection is needed by the guard, and nothing proves that better than this Trayvon Martin case. The only reason why housing complexes and other establishments having NW or some other security want gunless guards is to protect themselves from any possible lawsuits. For them it's a matter of their finances$$. They couldn't care less if the security guy gets killed, and if he does, they'll just put another one out there the next day. Screw them!

3. As for your statement "There will be not one witness testifying that Martin was attempting to murder George", what gives you that idea ? Even if the 2 eyewitnesses decided to not testify in the trial they could be subpoenaed and may have to testify, and hypothetically, even they both died, their reports to the Sanford Police Dept could still be used as evidence. I don't think it's possible for their testimony to be excluded.

Neither. I'm retired.

 

People hired as security guards are generally three steps below the night janitor...

 

I would probably agree with you if your post wasn't full of lies.

 

A better question might be what were they NOT thinking (and doing). And the answer might be they were not schooling their son in the huge difference between his schoolyard society, where he could go around hitting kids with no one paying attention, and the adult world, where hitting somebody could get him a fast bullet, before he could even think about it. Or did they school him about that ? If they did, he didn't receive the lesson very well. He acted like he was still in that get-away-with-anything schoolyard.

 

It is this kind of IGNORANT disrespect for security guards that is one of the greatest dangers to all of us. Security guards are some of the most important people in society, which without the jobs they do, we could all have been dead long ago. I suspect that you don't know 1/10 of what most guards are required to know, and if you tried to fill in for one of them, you'd be a laughingstock. Just for one example, do you know what risers are ?

 

Quote Originally Posted by jack4freedom View Post

1) Georgie was charged with domestic violence and was witnessed throwing a woman across the room in another informal security situation.....True

2)As a 28 year old man, he got his ass whipped by a 17 year old kid which definitely makes him a sissy....True

3)I'm sure that we can all agree that he was and is known by all as a nosey little prick.....True

4)He profiled Trayvon as a suspicious negro milling around his hood then chased him down and killed him....True

 

I wouldn't even dignify his moronic Post with a response. And it looks like you correctly, didn't really respond to it either.

 

FALSE! > all 4. Strike 1. Strike 2. Strike 3. Strike 4.

That shows how little you know about it.

 

In the case of apartment complex NWs, they are often set up by cheapskate apartment complexes who don't want to pay for real professional security (licensed/trainedguards, CCTV, recorders, etc) and they often get their protocol from police, who are not security professionals.

 

"Charged with" does not equal "convicted of". If this is all you have then you would judge many, many people this way. It isn't uncommon for people to have altercations. BTW: Druggie Trayvon fought alot and was even accused of hitting a teacher. What does that say about him?

A 17 year old violent punk that is. Get it right. That doesn't make him a sissy, it makes him the victim of a crime.

That is your opinion. He was on the phone with NEN who was directing him. I guess the police are nosy little pricks as well, or they are considered so in the ghetto. What does that say about you?

George never said any such thing. You are projecting your fantasies on him.

Now that I have proven your BS as false and soundly defeated you what else ya got?

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i like to help the misfortunate people who live in constant denial. telling them the truth is the only way to help.

 

And you base that solely on the comments of the shooter?

 

Schools have zero tolerance for schoolyard fights for the past 40 years..

 

The police did NOT tell him to "back off". You are simply lying, like simpletons tend to do.