How would you describe pregnancy?

I think it only an inconvenience if you are terrified and alone wondering how you will provide for the child...

 

If I've ever called it an inconvenience, it's because women who want elective abortions don't want to see anything about the pregnancy beyond its adverse effect on their lives, whereas women who love their children have exactly the opposite inclination.

 

How many babies have you had?

 

My, my...you need to develop better reading comprehension skills. What we pro-lifers have REPEATEDLY said was that the majority of women who chose to kill their unborn babies do so because THEY deem their pregnancy/child 'inconvenient'.

We pro-lifers value all life and don't deem any life 'inconvenient'.

Next - the best resource/support system any woman has regarding pregnancy and childbirth are the women in her own family...her mother, her grandmother, her aunts, her sisters...they are probably the best indicator of how things MIGHT progress for you in this area...but every woman is unique, and each pregnancy is unique.

I know this from my own experience.

You said your family & friends said 'it wasn't fun'...well, pregnancy & childbirth AREN'T mere games or something to do because you are bored.

Your body goes thru major changes...I once read that the physiology of a pregnant woman is about as different from a non-pregnant woman as a woman's physiology is from a man's. It is powerful, awesome and a wonderous time and experience...but I never considered it 'fun'...nor did I expect it to be so.

Nothing can surpass the first moment you feel your child moving inside of you...just a faint tickle...and a couple of months later, your husband states the baby kept him up all night, kicking him though you.

I had both natural childbirths, and ones using an epidural. Whatever works for you. I have been with women who ended up having to have C-sections, and those who were busy texting to all their friends & family that they had reached 10 CM...each woman is different, each birth is unique.

The moment you first see your newborn child...after months of feeling them, talking to them, dreaming of them...it will be burned into your memory forever.

 

Thank you for sharing Otter. I am glad that your pregnancies were wonderful and wanted experience. And yes, I have frequently discussed pregnancy and childbirth with the female members of my family. It is a subject that has always interested me greatly.

Now you characterize women with unwanted pregnancies as seeing their pregnancy as something of inconvenience. How did you come to this conclusion? Have you experienced an unwanted pregnancy yourself and felt it was an inconvenience? How do you KNOW these women feel it is an inconvenience? Have they ever told you it was?

What empirical evidence do lifers have to constantly label women who no longer want to be pregnant as people simply avoiding that which 'inconveniences' them? This I do not understand.

 

I am very short, small boned and not made for babies. So pregnancy is a love hate type of thing.



The first three months I have constant nausia.

Starting around the 4th month---I feel healthy energetic, alive and vibrant. About that time you start feeling the little guy or gal swirling around within you. That is a cool thing.

The ninth month, your body is wanting to kick the kiddo out---cause that baby is kicking you. It hurts. And discomfort in general is a sure sign that labor is going to happen soon. You are irritable, achey, blah.

Labor is a breeze for some and a torchure for others.

For me its pure torchure...but even after 24 hours of pain and angst....the joy you feel when that baby slithers out (yeah...it feels like a slither to me) and when you hear that cry....oh gosh. Nothing compares.

It really is such a wonderful experience...all of it. Not always comfortable but always a joy.

 

Hardly necessary when one has at least a rudimentary understanding of human nature.

 

My mother told me it feels sort of like light feathery feelings when they kick you. Like a literal butterflies in your tummy.

Very interesting though! Slithering huh? Haha, quite the explanation. Sounds like it was on and off enjoyment for you. Glad you were very happy after it was all over though. =)

 

Women are drawn to these stories we share of our mysterious, powerful ultimate creativity...that we alone can do...give birth. It is a unique bond women share.

And let me repeat myself...again. I value life. I might not have sat down and 'planned' each pregnancy...but each of my children was loved and wanted. And I mourned the baby I miscarried.

Now, as to the fact that the majority of abortions are because the unborn baby was 'deemed to be inconvenient'...I got that straight from Planned Parenthood & it's research arm:

 

Have women ever told you that their pregnancy was just an inconvenience to them? Whether they wanted to be pregnant or not?

I really would like to know the reasoning behind this character trait of, "it's just an inconvenience" and why it is generally applied to all women who have unwanted pregnancies.

Surely a woman who has already had multiple children and does not want anymore but winds up pregnant anyways...she already knows what it means, what it FEELS like to go through pregnancy and childbirth. So would you still say she is just having an abortion because her pregnancy simply inconveniences her?

Is it really that simple? That's a woman's mindset when she goes to get an abortion? "Oh no I'm pregnant! Ooooh this is such an inconvenience! And I wanted to get my nails done today. Oh gosh...what a pain. Oh I know, I'll just have an abortion! That'll take care of that little inconvenience!" Really? Because whenever lifers describe it as 'just an inconvenience' that's really what you all make it sound like a woman who is contemplating abortion is thinking. Nothing like the fear and anxiety a woman really feels when she has an unwanted pregnancy. =/

I can at least say I have experienced a pregnancy SCARE and my mind was the furthest from "Oh no! How will I ever maintain my lifestyle? What an inconvenience!" It was more like me (*)(*)(*)(*)ting myself and constantly hoping I wasn't pregnant, wondering how was I going to finish school, how was I going to pay for this kid, could I get an abortion if I needed to without my parents finding out? Did I really want one? Could I put it up for adoption? Would my parents be ok with that? Will the father want to stay and be involved? What do I do?

That is the chain of thoughts and questions that raced through my mind when a possible unwanted pregnancy happened to me. I don't think, "This is such an inconvenience!" ever crossed my mind in that instance.

 

I do agree that this is something the majority of women can relate on and talk about with one another. I have found myself bonding over talks about my mother's pregnancies with my brothers and I and the experience many times. Sometimes I wonder why I haven't gone off to become a midwife yet. lol

I never said you didn't Otter.

Now, I see that you have quoted an article which supposedly quotes Guttmacher as having said women chose to abort due to 'inconvenience'. However I looked into it further and found on Guttmacher's actual website listing the reasons women chose abortion and the word 'inconvenience' or 'inconvenient' is not there at all. That is NOT one of the reasons. Your article is not correctly quoting Guttmacher.

http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/journals/3711005.pdf

 

Uncle Ferd says its a disease womens get...

... when dey wanna trap a guy.

 

I didn't know you were pregnant, Whaler!

 

I have never been pregnant, but I would love to be. I want kids. I want four, but I figure I'll start with one first!

I don't expect it to be a walk in the park, but any pregnancy of mine will be wanted. I intend to have a natural birth too, no matter how bad it is. Can't wait. I'll probably hate it because it hurts, and then after the birth think that it wasn't so bad after all.

 

Look at that list of 'reasons' people use to justify killing their unborn children.

It boils down to 3 main 'reasons': rape/incest (about 1% of all abortions); health issues (about 6% of all abortions) and the overwhelming majority - 93% of all abortions are because the pregnancy / child is deemed 'inconvenient' by the mother.

That IS the fact of the matter.

So the premise of your OP is wrong. Your attempt to spin failed.

 

How do you decide if your child is valuable enough to live,or if s/he should be killed? And I remember you stating that pregnancy turns your body into a "saggy mess"...how do you reconcile that?

 

Eactly my thoughts on this entire thread.

Go through any thread in this section, especially the one on being a "saggy mess" and the same folks who claimed how pregnancy destroys your body, as a reason to justify abortions, are now wondering where lifers get the term "inconvenienced" from?....lol. Not to mention their own words in just about every thread in this section.

What is an "unwanted" pregnancy but an "inconvenience"?....lol. Can't afford it right now, can't finish school, want to be married first, any excuse given is given under the banner of the baby being an "inconvenience" to the current lifestyle being lived.

This thread has epic fail written all over it.

 

Well of course you are right! These people will say anything to justify abortion homicides.

 

Here is a direct quote from OKGrannie to Whaler in the thread titled:

"I Thank God Everyday For Abortion"

So there is your answer on inconvenience right there Pasithea.

 

Yep. A lame attempt to spin the fact that 93% of all ABORTIONS are because the poor child is deemed 'inconvenient' by the mother...and killed.

Pro-lifers NEVER feel ANY life...especially the innocent unborn... to be 'inconvenient'. Period.

 

Referring to pregnancy/childbirth as "inconvenience" is just an attempt to minimize or eliminate the perception of the effects of pregnancy/childbirth being something to avoid. If, as Whaler suggests, pregnancy/childbirth is purely bliss (gag), there would be no need to continue to tout adoption as the preferred method of dealing with unwanted pregnancy, in fact women would trying to get pregnant constantly. The fact is that pregnancy/childbirth is not only a miserable state of being, it IS damaging to a woman's body, EVEN if it is a wanted pregnancy, so imagine what it is like to be pregnant with an unwanted pregnancy. So, referring to something as "inconvenient" is merely an obvious attempt to trivialize a woman's sacrifice during pregnancy, and it is an insult to all women who have made that sacrifice.

 

Guess I was lucky.. no damage, no stretch marks.

 

Hogwash! Even a wanted pregnancy is "inconvenient." An unwanted pregnancy cannot be described with that word.

 

Where does it say the word inconvenient in the chart AT ALL? WHERE? Just because you believe some of those reasons are 'inconvenient' does not mean they are not legitimate reasons for a woman to have an abortion. I think being unable to afford a child, wanting to finish school or having serious relationship problems with the partner are perfectly legitimate reasons not to bring a child into the world.

 

You are spinning again, grannie. If you think something is 'inconvenient' - you dispose of it...and far too many people think their unborn children are disposable.

A wanted pregnancy can change your 'plans' but you do so willingly. That's called 'accepting your responsiblity' and 'being an adult'.

Those who chose to kill their unborn children do so because they put their selfish wants before their child's life.