Huge poll numbers a huge setup

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  1. Josephwalker

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    " Relative inaction" such as travel bans Biden called xenophobic?
     
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    The travel ban still let in some 40,000 plus people? There is a reason that gets brought up every time this topic is addressed. It's because it's one of the only real things Trump can even point to doing until at least mid-march. During this time and for weeks afterwards, Trump also downplayed the severity and brushed off concern. We of course find out later that he knew about the severity all along, had even acknowledged it.

    And he never really improved. Oh he did take it halfway seriously there from about mid-march to May or so, but he was more concerned about his re-election chances then he was about actually doing something about the virus. That's why he kept turning the COVID task force briefings into impromptu campaign rallies. He consistently undermined his own health experts, at one point finding himself recommending toxic disinfectants be used on the inside of a person's body, and perhaps most damning of all, said that he learned about the virus after he got his diagnosis.

    A president who cares about his country does not find himself just learning about the virus 5 months after a pandemic starts and only even then because he himself was infected.
     
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    The travel ban Biden called Xenophobic saved countless lives but beyond that ventilator shortages were immediately addressed and nobody died due to lack of such equipment. Field hospitals were set up and navy medical ships were available. Nobody died in hallways as predicted. Trump did all that could be done.
     
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    What pollsters learned was that they would have to feign a larger spread to discourage voting Trump.
     
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    Trump did not do all that could be done. People in his administration may have, when not being hamstrung by Trump. People in state and local governments certainly did. People in the medical and scientific communities did. People in the industries supplying the things we needed did. Everyday folks working essential jobs did.

    Donald Trump did not. Donald Trump made it into a spectacle all about him. To him the virus was personal, not because of the loss it brought the country in economic and human terms, but because of it's potential to affect his reelection. He is an amoral despicable man who only cares about himself.
     
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    What could Trump do that he didn't do?
     
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    Not spent his time getting into spats with the governors, arguing with his medical experts, downplaying the severity of the virus to the point of calling the seriousness being given to the virus as a hoax, recommending unproven medications, turn his nose up at the safety guidelines that have been proven to work, continuing to hold rallies even when they directly violate local and state orders, portraying those who do take the virus seriously as weak.

    Trump's job as president wasn't to do the office work, it was to be a leader. It was to guide the country along during a tumultuous time and act as a conduit for the states as they dealt with the conditions on the ground. Not fight with and try to discredit those doing the work. Not downplay the seriousness of the situation.

    His job...was to be grown up. And like so many children do when put into a position they lack the maturity to handle, he failed at it.
     
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    As I suspected you can't come up with anything substantive Trump could have done that he didn't do. All you can do is disagree with him personally.
     
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    I just told you what his job was. He didn't do it.
     
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    Nothing substantive just your opinion. Fact is Trump did everything that could reasonably be done to thwart the spread of covid and treat those afflicted.
     
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    The problem for Trump isn't enthusiasm of his supporter.

    It's numbers.
     
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    Trump Rally numbers exceed the last election.
     
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    LOL

    Your findings. Democrats are Satanists. LOL

    You love yourself some QAnon and Alex Jones.
     
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    Yeah there Are a number of people supporting the "Big Guy" who answer polls all day long.
     
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    We saw that in Tulsa.
     
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    And he did that by confronting China Virus, risking his own health, and showing Americans not to be fearful.....not buckle under to the fear the left would instill. More death is caused by a shutdown they seem to favor.
     
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    BWA HAHAHAHA

    Sorry folks but there's no "comey" this time to swing the last minute "soft" votes."

    Just look at your Hunter Biden story in the NY Post. That went over like a fart in church.

    Your problem is that your leaders, from Trump on down, have lied for so long and about literally everything under the sun that no one, not even you believes a word they say.

    All your dream "October surprises" are going to come down to nothing more than jokes on late night TV and blocked Twitter/FB threads.
     
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    Yeah, that Would seem the most logical assumption: that the leftist Media Conspiracy-- there normally is a leftist conspiracy, we know-- is pushing fake numbers, & has even ensnared Rasmussen & FOX News, this time. Because the idea that President Trump could have lost popularity just stretches credibility too far.

    I mean, look at the country under Trump-- what could be better?
     
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    Except he didn't really do any of those things. He didn't confront the virus. He did risk his own health, but not to show Americans not to be fearful, but BECAUSE HE was fearful that Americans would think it makes him look weak if he were to wear a mask or follow safety guidelines.

    As far as the "fear that the left would instill" and lockdowns, those drastic measures could be avoided if we had a larger number of Americans following the safety guidelines.

    But we don't, because somehow, morons decided that doing what was necessary was somehow unpatriotic, and these mental giants somehow twisted everything around to where the only thing that mattered was themselves. Not the other members of society, only themselves. So it's true that there is fear on the left, but it's a fear that we will end up going down roads we could mitigate if folks would just pull their heads out of their own asses and stop being selfish.

    It's no surprise that the group of people who are trying to make this all about themselves support a man who tries to make everything all about himself.
     
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    Saved for posterity.
     
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    Biden emails are being exposed despite the best efforts of the left to cover this up.
    https://nypost.com/2020/10/17/joe-bidens-polling-lead-slips-in-wake-of-post-report-on-hunter/amp/
     
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    Pollsters often ask the wrong question as they did with Hillary. It’s not always who you support that is an indicator, but who you reject. In 2016 it was Hillary that was rejected. This go, it’s a vote of those rejecting Trump vs rejecting the Dems.
    As Regan once asked voters, “are you better of now or then?”. If you don’t like how things are now, I would suggest you reject the Dems... they have driven the last four years chaos. Think things will improve if they win?
     
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