Hundreds of US troops heading to the border to deal with migrant caravan, official says

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    Trumps poll numbers are going up
     
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    Feel free to post your evidence that the caravan is growing. And the caravan of people who are going to apply for asylum is hardly an invasion except in the minds of the hysterically missinformed.
     
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    That sounds like a mob to me

    Yes, trump is a more prominant person than I am

    But just because he says something it does not mean trump supporters were incapapable is saying the same thing independently
     
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    Thaks for proving my point. Trump has certainly suceeded among his deplorables.
     
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    www.washingtonpost.com/world/the_americas/how-the-migrant-caravan-became-so-big-and-why-its-continuing-to-grow/2018/10/23/88abf1a6-d631-11e8-8384-bcc5492fef49_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.22ea7a2d0676

    As for "invasion", they are brandishing flags from their homeland are they not? I don't see them stating that "they want to be americans" rather, that "they are coming here for better opportunities"....
     
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    True.
     
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    Don't you love these "refugees" flying Honduran flags as they march our way.
     
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    I guess that we will find out because you don't know. Many of them are supporting Trump's opposition. Just your unsupported opinion.
     
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    These threads aren't created to resolve political issues, the aim is just to discuss them, ideally (though unlikely) to agree on a solution. In the matter at hand, the accurate issue is how to respond to a large caravan of Central American poor migrants heading for the US border to claim asylum. Responses to this question vary along the basic lines I noted; conservatives say Trump must send the army, block these migrants with force if needed, keep them out; lefties demand the opposite, presume some international obligation to shelter these refugees on humanitarian grounds.

    Intelligent discussion should consider both perspectives; are these migrants actually "refugees"? They don't appear to meet the criteria, but maybe if a credible case could be made their government is incapable of adequately providing for their safety from gang warfare? Then there's the issue of how many should be allowed in. The critical left appears to argue there's some sort of unlimited obligation to shelter everyone who objectively (or subjectively) qualifies as a refugee, but the US has a quota, a specified total number of refugees are allowed each year, presumably anyone applying for admission as a refugee beyond the annual quota would be properly denied admission.

    Conservatives don't think these immigrants are refugees, we've heard them reject offers from Mexico to shelter them, give them jobs, provide healthcare and education for them, they've repeatedly stated their aim is to secure a better life in the US, these are impoverished peasants masquerading as refugees in pursuit of "the American Dream". We know the existing immigration system establishes anyone claiming asylum has to be scheduled for a hearing by an immigration judge and that these hearings are typically about two years later, that during those two years the applicant has to be temporarily allowed to remain and that barely 2% of those scheduled for asylum applications ever appear in court.

    Then we've got the effect of all these immigrants, which should be considered when resolving what should be done. For those who highlight the immigrant origins of Americans, the diversity of the nation, and the contributions of such diverse people, the general idea is that immigration is always good and the more the merrier. Others believe quality over quantity would be a better guide and that too many low quality immigrants are being allowed, we'd prefer admitting better educated and more skilled professionals.
     
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    Thank God. Only President Trump can stop the Caravan!
     
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    And burning the American flag
     
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    Did they burn the American flag while traveling here?
     
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    I think many of the repub anti trumpsters in congress are converting, retiring or being defeated
     
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    Most if not all immigrants come here either to work and make money or escape persecution even the legal ones.
     
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    Yes

    It was reported a few days ago
     
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    That would require independent thinking and analyzing of facts.
     
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    Wow, now the idiot brigade is revving up nationalism. Somebody burned a flag. You conspiracy theorists should have figured out by now that it was a plant by the Trump administration to rev up nationalistic fervor prior to the midterms. OR maybe the Koch brothers paid for it.
     
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    Which most trump supporters do

    We figured out the problems and solutions ages ago

    and were just waiting for someone like trump to come along
     
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    Well if not spewing hate and divisiveness and thousands and thousands of lies and attacking the free press and the FBI is acting like a Democrat then certainly no one could accuse Trump of acting like a Democrat. Of course few would accuse him of acting like a president either.
     
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    You bet we see flag burners as aliens that do not belong in this country
     
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    Yep just waiting for a racist to give you someone to blame for your failures.
     
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    The way hillary and other liberals are blaming the russians for your failure to give obama his coveted third term?
     
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    Yep, right along with football players that kneel and gays and lesbians and Muslims and uppity blacks and pointy headed intellectuals and people that don't speak proper english and people on welfare and poor people and liberals. The number you can find to hate is probably almost unlimited bounded only by the level of your inhumanity.
     
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    Gee it took you long enough to use Hillary and Obsma. Slowing down a bit.
     
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