I believe Abraham said "good son and good Prophet" to The Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)

That was true then, but why else would Jesus have mentioned it again, and tell them to look for the abomination to appear???

And the dates match, too, 690 + 1290 = 1980, when Jerusalem again became the Capital of israel.

Dan 12:12 Blessed is he, (1290 years after the 690 AD construction of the Dome of the Rock, that is: until Jerusalem is Capital again in 1980 AD), that waiteth, (45 more years), and cometh to (the end), the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days, (which would make the end at 2K25 AD).

Dan 12:13 But go thou thy way till the end be, (2K25 AD): for thou shalt rest, and stand in thy lot (among the prophets) at the end of the days.

 

I have a theory that the year 2030 could be extremely important regarding agreement by Muslims and Christians that it is now time for the fulfillment of Ezekiel chapter 40 to 48…….. So perhaps something happens that is very important about five years before that??!!

I suspect that if we Christians as well as Muslims do not recognize the wisdom and inspiration of the Book of Ezekiel by that time…… then the rebuilding could be delayed until 2070……. but if we do this…… a lot of unnecessary deaths will occur?!

 

By 2025AD, all Israel will have accepted Jesus as The Elijah, who returned in 32AD.

 

I would like to hear your interpretation on this.

By 2025AD, the jews will be strong for Jesus, who they will see "as a lost son," Zech 12:10.


They will accept Jesus as the Elijah because their own 1Kings tells the same story as the Gospels,... minus the crucifixion of 32AD:





1) Both Elijah and Christ raised the dead:

1 Kings 17:22.. And the LORD heard the voice of Elijah; and the soul of the child came into him again, and he revived.

John 12:1 Then Jesus six days before the passover came to Bethany, where .Lazarus was, which had been dead, whom he raised from the dead.

2) Both Elijah, who never dies, and Christ were immortal:

2 Kings 2:1 And it came to pass, when the LORD would take up Elijah into heaven by a whirlwind, that Elijah went with Elisha from Gilgal

John 20:25 The other disciples therefore said unto him, We have seen the LORD. But he said unto them, Except I shall see in his hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and thrust my hand into his side, I will not believe.

3) Both Elijah and Christ. ascended into Heaven before witnesses:

2 Kings 2:11 And it came to pass, as they still went on, and talked, that, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven. .
12..And Elisha saw it,.

Luke 24:.51 And it came to pass, while he blessed them, he was parted from them, and carried up into heaven

4) Both Elijah and Christ troubled Israel:

1 Kings 18:17 And it came to pass, when Ahab saw Elijah that Ahab said unto him, Art thou he that troubleth Israel?

Matthew 2:3 When Herod the king had heard these things, he was troubled, and all Jerusalem with him. And when he had gathered all the chief priests and scribes of the people together, he demanded of them where Christ should be born..

5) Both Elijah and Christ were threatened by the authorities with death:

1 Kings 19:14.. And he said, I have been very jealous for the LORD God of hosts: because the children of ..I..srael have forsaken thy covenant, thrown down thine altars, and slain thy prophets with the sword; and .I. .even I only .am .left..; and they seek my life, to take it away

John 11:53 Then from that day forth they took counsel together for to put him to death

6) Both Elijah and Christ.... were hunted by the Jewish authorities:

1 Kings 19:14 And he said, I have been very jealous for the LORD God of hosts: because the children of Israel have forsaken thy covenant, thrown down thine altars, and slain thy prophets with the sword; and I, even I only, am left; and they seek my life, to take it away

Then said some of them of Jerusalem, Is not this he, whom they seek to kill?

7) Both Elijah and Christ.... hid in a cave/tomb:

1 Kings 19:9 And he came thither unto a cave, and lodged there; and, behold, the word of the LORD came to him, and he said unto him, What doest thou here, Elijah?

Matthew 12:40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth...

Both Elijah and Christ pondered in the wilderness 40 days and forty nights:....

1 Kings 19:8 And he arose, and did eat and drink, and went in the strength of that meat forty days and forty nights unto Horeb the mount of God

Matthew 4:2 And when he had fasted forty days and forty nights, he was afterward an hungred.

9) Both Elijah and Christ. walked on across the water

2 Kings 2:8.. And Elijah took his mantle, and wrapped it together, and smote the waters, and they were divided hither and thither, so that they two went over on dry ground

Matthew 14:25 And in the fourth watch of the night Jesus went unto them, walking on the sea

10) Both Elijah and Christ let a person follow them across the water:

2 Kings 2:14.. And he took the mantle of Elijah that fell from him, and smote the waters, and said, Where is the LORD God of Elijah? and when he also had smitten the waters, they parted hither and thither: and Elisha went over

Matthew 14:29 And he said, Come. And when Peter was come down out of the ship, he walked on the water to go to Jesus.

11) Both Elijah and Christ.... wrote only one thing, a letter, to people on Earth AFTER they had ascended:

2 Chronicles 21:12 And there came a writing to him from ..Elijah.. the prophet, saying, Thus saith the LORD God of David thy father, Because thou hast not walked in the ways of Jehoshaphat thy father, nor in the ways of Asa king of Judah,

Revelation 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:

12) Both Elijah and Christ appointed a successor, Elisha, by Elijah, and Peter, by Christ:

2 Kings 2:9.. And it came to pass, when they were gone over, that Elijah said unto Elisha, Ask what I shall do for thee, before I be taken away from thee. And ..Elisha.. said, I pray thee, let a double portion of thy spirit be upon me

Matthew 16:18.. And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this .rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

13) Both Elijah and Christ gave a successor the power to raise the dead:

2 Kings 8:5.. And it came to pass, as he was telling the king how he had restored a dead body to life, that, behold, the woman, whose son he had restored to life, cried to the king for her house and for her land. And Gehazi said, My lord, O king, this is the woman, and this is her son, whom ..Elisha.. restored to life.
Acts 9:40 But Peter put them all forth, and kneeled down, and ..prayed..; and turning him to the body said, Tabitha, arise. And she opened her eyes: and when she saw Peter, she sat up

14) Both Elijah and Christ gave a successor the power to heal:

2 Kings 5:10.. And Elisha sent a messenger unto him, saying, Go and wash in Jordan seven times, and thy flesh shall come again to thee, and thou shalt be clean

Acts 3:6 Then Peter said, Silver and gold have I none; but such as I have give I thee: In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth rise up and walk

15) Both Elijah and Christ gave a successor a symbolic authority, the cloak to one, the keys to the other:

1 Kings 19:19.. So he departed thence, and found Elisha the son of Shaphat, who was plowing with twelve yoke of oxen before him, and he with the twelfth: and Elijah passed by him, and cast his mantle upon him.

Matthew 16:19.. And I will give unto thee the keys.of the kingdom.. of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven

16) Both Elijah and Christ. asked that the this "cup" be taken from them:

1Kings 19:4 .But he himself went a day's journey into the wilderness, and came and sat down under a juniper tree: and he requested for himself that he might die (because he was afraid of what was coming from Jezebel: [1Kings 19:3]), and said, "It is enough (they seek my life, to take it away: [1Kings 19:10]); now, O LORD, take away my life; for I am not better than my fathers."

Matthew 26:39 And he went a little farther, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, (because he began to show grief and distress of mind and was deeply depressed: [Matt 26:37]), let this cup pass from me (It is enough: [1Kings 19:4]): nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt.

17) Both Elijah and Christ have been said to have had miraculous births:

Jewish Encyclopedia:
Three different theories regarding Elijah's origin are presented in the Haggadah: Mention must be made of a statement which, though found only in the later cabalistic literature (Yal?u? Reubeni, Bere(*)(*)(*)(*), 9a, ed. Amsterdam), seems nevertheless to be very old (see Epiphanius, l.c.), and according to which Elijah was an angel in human form, so that he had neither parents nor offspring.
See also Melchizedek.

Matthew1:23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.

1 Both Elijah and Christ destroyed pagan worshippers and priests. Elijah destroyed the priests of Baal; Christ, the Pantheon of Rome, 380AD:

IKi 18:40 And Elijah said unto them, Take the prophets of Baal; let not one of them escape. And they took them: and Elijah brought them down to the brook Kishon, and slew them there.

History: Universal Christianity in 380AD:
Revelation 20:4 I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony about Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands.
They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years (32AD -1054AD)

19) Both Elijah and Christ were promised faithfulness three times, Elisha in the former and Peter, in the latter.

2 Kings 2:2.. I will not leave thee. So they went down to Bethel
2 Kings 2:4.. I will not leave thee. So they came to Jericho
2 Kings 2:6.. I will not leave thee. And they two went on

John 21:17.. He saith unto him the third time,... "Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? Peter was grieved because he said unto him the third time, "Lovest thou me?"

20) Both Elijah and Christ. condemned a Jezebel:

2 Kings 9:36 Wherefore they came again, and told him. And he said, This is the word of the LORD, which he spake by his servant Elijah the Tishbite, saying, In the portion of Jezreel shall dogs eat the flesh of Jezebel:

Rev 2:20 ..Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols. Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds..

21) Both Elijah and Christ re-dedicated the Israelite people to God by raising up a new altar or temple:

1 Ki 18:30.. And ..Elijah.. said unto all the people, Come near unto me. And all the people came near unto him. And he repaired the altar of the LORD that was broken down. And Elijah took twelve stones, according to the number of the tribes of the sons of Jacob, unto whom the word of the LORD came, saying, Israel shall be thy name:

John 2:19 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple and in three days I will raise it up.

22) Both Elijah and Christ chose one man upon which to build his following:

2 Kings 2:15 And when the sons of the prophets which were to view at Jericho saw him, they said, The spirit of Elijah doth rest on Elisha. And they came to meet him, and bowed themselves to the ground before him

Matthew 16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and ..upon.. this ..rock.. I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

23) Both Elijah and Christ were subject of a three day 'search' for their presence:

2 Kings 2:1 And when they urged him till he was ashamed, he said, Send.
They sent therefore fifty men; and they sought three days, but found him not.

Luke 2:46 And it came to pass, that after three days they found him in the temple, sitting in the midst of the doctors, both hearing them, and asking them questions.

 

Pro 19:21 There are many devices in a man's heart; nevertheless the counsel of the LORD, that shall stand.

Man can plan and scheme all he wants, but if those plans are not in accord with the Will of the Lord, then those plans of man will fail and the will of the Lord shall prevail.

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I don't accept that correlation between Jesus and Elijah. IMHO, you are speculation on that relationship.

 

I personally am 99% certain that what President Obama's brother is promoting is him being stirred up by the Holy Spirit!


http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...obama-one-worlds-most-courageous-muslims.html


Is Malik Obama one of the worlds' most courageous Muslims?



In my opinion.....YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!

endtimeheadlines.org/temple-mount/obamas-brother-in-support-of-third-temple-built-in-jerusalem/

 

Cupid Dave......… this idea fits amazingly well with an article from a man from Uganda about the final Cyrus type. I am almost certain that E. R. is a near death experiencer. His insight is exceptional.

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E. R. :

 

Pay attention to the word "legend" a legend is not truth there are too many legend in the Quran and about Mohammed and people are denying the truth over legend the truth is Mohammed was supposed to be messenger to bring the Bible to the desert people instead he created his own religion and book against God's (Allah) wish.

3. The Prophet Muhammad's Journey to Heaven
According to the Islamic legend called "Miraj," the Prophet Muhammad had an experience that is similar in many respects to a near-death experience. Muhammad is said to have ascended to heaven to visit the seven heavens [and, in some accounts, the fires of hell] in the company of the archangel Gabriel. In the Koran, Muhammad's enemies are quoted as saying that they would not believe him unless he ascends to heaven and brings down a book (Sura 17:92-95).

And why Muslims recite peace be upon him every time they mention Mohammed? Is it because Mohammed never had peace in his life? Is it some kind of anti curse phrase that they have to mention "pbuh" so that they do not be cursed?

 

There's a "legend" a carpenter could walk on water and turn water into wine.

 

Such are opinions.

 

A prophecy not a legend that the son of a carpenter in the house of David from a virgin birth will be born and he will be the Son of God, a prophecy that came true.

This is the main difference between Islam stories that are based on legends while the Bible is base on the Words of God that came true.

When the angel appeared to Mohammed he was instructed to bring the Bible to his people instead he created his own holy book and religion and his followers expanded that further by creating stories base on legends.

 

Didn't take you long to start making stuff up again. Please don't make christians look ignorant again.

 

Expect that there were Jews and Christians in pre-Islamic Arabia.

 

On the contrary I have once again expose your true colors and Christians are not ignorant as you want them to be.

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Yes there were Jews, Christians and other heretical Christians groups as well as Arabian pagans. And Mohammed was supposed to bring the Word of God to them instead he brought his own words, his own religion and his own holy book.

 

Nonsense; Islam is the same message that God sent to Abraham, Moses, Jesus, and all the other prophets.

You'll have to prove how this is not the case.

 

I must agree with you on this, basically.

Mohammed made the arabs into what the Hebrew patriarchs had been back in 1352 BC.
Sharia is little different in its Laws than what the Jews practiced.

Of course, it was by ignoring what Jesus had told us all, and disputing the gospel which was then being spread over all the world then, that Islam could say they loved Jesus, but never do anything he preached.

Muslims mention Jesus, and they "revere" him as a great prophet, but:

1) They do not abide by his ritual of the Eucharist. (John 6:54)

2) They do not love their enemies. (Matthew 5:43)

3) They do not believe "we all have the power to become the sons-of-God." (John 1:12)

4) They do not remember that in 32AD, Elijah returned from Heaven as an immortal, one who never died. (Matthew 17:12)

5) They do not believe in salvation by faith in The Truth. (John 14:6)

6) They do not believe in the resurrection through faith in Christ. (John 11:25)

7) They do not believe in the crucified suffering messiah. (Isaiah 53)

 

It matters little that you as a Christian, will resist changing the teachings of error on this.
Because you have accepted christ, and understand he personified Truth as the "ideal" men must bow down to, it does not matter to any extent.

It is important only for the Jews and the Muslims who imitate the Jewish belief and Old Testament.

But, I do NOT speculate.
I point to the facts listed in 1Kings, which support Elijah as returned in 32AD, calling himself the son-of-god.

 

Jesus was using hypnosis during his works, which seems even today to be a mystical art of some kind, one still not explained.

The healings and mass hypnosis at the wedding easily explains the cures rendered and the wine at the wedding.

 

Intriguing theory Cupid Dave!

I can't rule it out....Dr. Chaim Tejman has stated that hypnosis can unlock a part of the mind that functions a bit like a time machine.

This could sure help to explain the Helen Wambach Ph. D. research?!

http://www.grandunifiedtheory.org.il/Book7/Hypnosis_time _travel_machine.htm

 

but...… imagine that this was the year 800... and somebody just passed me My Descent Into Death by former atheist Howard Storm..... would it not be pretty easy for me to turn that book into the foundation for a religion....and begin to make converts?


http://www.near-death.com/storm.html

Howard Storm's Near-Death Experience

 

Correct. They are not ignorant. You, pretending, is a different story.

 

How do you know what Mohammed was instructed to do?????????

 

You don't know anything about ancient Arabia, do you?

Or Islam for that matter...

Muslims don't believe in blood sacrifice per the story of Abraham..

 

What is WR pretending?

 

It is interesting hypothesis to speculate that Hypnosis is a function using the Unconscious mind which can also make what happens unknown in the Conscious mind.

That Hypnosis is/might be a means of entering into the vast knowledge of the Unconscious Mind (which has stored away all the phylogenetic memories of our species} is very intriguing, indeed.