I do not want a mixed race kid - is that racist?

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  1. Toefoot

    Toefoot Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I did. Does not change my question. I think you are mixing up the word "preference" with "racist".

     
  2. J0NAH

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    where?
     
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    Toefoot Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    OK, I am white and if a prefer a white woman am I racist? If I am black and prefer a black woman, am I racist?

     
  4. Think for myself

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    I don't know. I think your comments on races other than white show a distinct disrespect for people.
     
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    Back in the day I wanted a black woman. You know the old saying, you ain't a man until you 'slept' with a black woman. Been with blonde bombshell bimbos (meh). Then I grew up and wanted a Spanish woman (the sexiest women on earth). Are Puerto Rican hotties considered out of my race? Don't care. My hawt wife is whiter than I am but her sister is darker, more on the order of negrita. Puerto Ricans come in all colors.

    Mods please do not misinterpret the common Spanish word negrita or negrito for a racial slur look alike.
     
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    So don't sleep with women of other races......
     
  7. J0NAH

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    what position?
     
  8. ThirdTerm

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    Tthere are more mixed-race kids in Japan than there used to be. According to the “List of Statistical Surveys conducted by the Ministry of Health, Labour and Welfare”, the number of international marriages in Japan (Japanese with non-Japanese) in the 70’s was just 5,500, but it rapidly increased in the 80’s when the Japanese economy started bubbling up. Although it peaked in 2006 (nearly 45,000 couples), there were still 23,657 international marriages last year which is over 4 times that of the 70’s.
     
  9. migueldarican

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    Yes, but there really isn't anything anyone can do about it. You have your preferrences.

    Since I am very, very antiracist, I could sit here and try to convince you that you're wrong (which I haven't seen that happen here yet, on any forum with any issue), or I could just let science prove you wrong eventually and away from any online forum, but in your real life as it progresses, and give you warning on just how that may happen.

    So you want a white baby. Okay. I'm going to tell you why what we can describe as "amateur genetic engineering" is doomed to fail.

    Many people here in support of your views have mentioned that it's no worse than being attracted to people specific traits or hanging out with people with specific traits. The problem is that yes, there really is a difference. We really don't have that much choice involved in who we are physically attracted to. Often we'll see matchmaking done, especially throughout middle- and highschool. Or even when grown ups try to fix their friends up together. Or even when it's just establishing friendships, parents will schedule playdates. The results here are mixed. Why? Because what's being attempted is something that has yet to be accomplished, and likely never will be: control life.

    Which is what trying for a "white" baby is trying to do.

    1. You can't control who you are attracted to. Now you already mentioned later in the thread that you are actually attracted to Asian women, bringing me to:

    2. What happens when/if the Asian girl gets pregnant? You convince her to have an abortion? Sure, but the only perfect solution would be to force her to have one. Then you've already crossed a line most people don't want to cross. So, the better way: keep making sure you and she have protection. Do you have 100% faith in modern birth control? Then practicing abstinence at least from interracial dating is the best way.

    3. The thing is, you might actually be successful. You meet a white girl, you mate, have a white baby. Congratulations. What's next. Does your quest for white offspring stop at 1 generation? Fine, you've succeeded. But if your plan involves a purebred line, eventually it's doomed to fail. You're white baby could grow up, bring home a black mate, say, "We're having a baby." You might say, "That won't happen, because I'll train him/her." Again, mixed results.You can train someone, but rules are meant to be broken, life breaks out of cages, and any other cliches I can fit here to get my point across.

    This was a big response which boils down to one little, slightly (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)baggy phrase: Good luck with that.
     
  10. Super21

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    Yeah. Now that I think about it I sort of don't respect blacks. Blacks blame ALL of their problems on racism and NEVER take responsibility for their own faults.

    Have you ever heard a black man say he failed because his education wasn't good enough or he didn't work hard enough or someone was just better than him? No, that doesn't cross their mind. Its impossible that blacks are wrong or have faults. This is the type of thinking that makes me a viscous racist and makes me want to separate from them.

    I am not mean to other races and I don't treat them as inferior. Its like having a dog, I might not like a certain breed but I don't abuse them. That is wrong.

    Oh, btw, I do respect some things of black culture. Blacks are into fighting and aggressive. I like that.
     
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    As long you know it.

    Incorrect generalization. I could also say that whites blame all their problems on the PC culture, affirmative action, feminism, yadda yadda. But that would also be an incorrect generalization. Especially since I'm white.

    Yes.

    Yes.

    Yes.

    Incorrect generalization. In fact the examples you give above can really be explained by human nature. It's human nature to not accept responsibility for your actions and shortcomings. To not face accountability. To say that this is a character trait of primarily black people is - surprise, surprise - racist.

    I answered yes to examples you gave because I actually know black people and know that they have taken accountability. It's rare, but it's rare in human nature, especially now. Heck, all you have to do is look all over this forum. Pick a spot. It'd be a miracle if you could count beyond your fingers how many times anyone has said, "I was wrong, you were right." In this age, standing tall and firm on your opinions and beliefs is more important. So to the point that the word "compromise" is a bad word and this nation is becoming ever more polarized.

    See above. Again blacks have faults and are wrong. Bad guys and good guys come in all colors. Have you seen "Django Unchained"? The biggest bad guy in there wasn't even the white guy, it was Sam Jackson's character. That's just one of many examples.

    No what makes you a racist is your wrongful generalizations.

    Some major points will be lost there for comparing having black friends to having a pet dog.

    Ending on another incorrect generalization, and trying to mask it in compliment doesn't work.
     
  12. Ronstar

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    and white supremacists blame all their problems on integration and multiculturalism.

    they refuse to take responsibility for their poor decisions in life.
     
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    Its an experience.

    You made me think a little bit. The only place or time where I see blacks play fair is with their own people, like in sports like basketball. They don't make excuses and I respect that. I only wish they will stop believing that every failure of theirs is a mean and racist attempt by the white guy to keep him down. In my entire life I have NEVER witnessed racism from whites to minorities except a little anti-Semitism.

    I have never seen a white guy complaining he didn't get his job because a black man wouldn't give it to him. We do complain about black incompetence though that everyone experiences.

    I agree.

    That is silly to dismiss something as wrong because its considered racist.

    Exactly my point.

    I don't know. I know lots of white people who take responsibility for their failures. I also have came across those who don't. I think that is the difference between a winner and a loser. How will you improve if you don't accept your flaws?

    I see it sometimes.

    Again, they are experiences.

    Even generalizations have truth to them. ITs wrong to dismiss something as a generalization.

    My point was you don't abuse something that you don't like. Something blacks cant seem to figure out, or at least black leaders like Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton.

    I disagree. Black culture is about being strong. Listen to 2pac, biggie and most rappers.

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    Like what problem do they blame on integration and multiculturalism?
     
  14. Ronstar

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    sounds like a very sheltered life.

    Ive seen a ton of racism from white people.

    um....you do know this is 2014, right?
     
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    shhhh, don't scare him, you shouldn't startle some people. Best thing to do is smile and slowly back out of the room.
     
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    Think of it this way. The media searches the country to find acts of racism to publicize and demonize whites. And what do they find? Don Imus calling a black woman a nappy headed hoe or the false spectacle of the Duke University Lacrosse team.

    Like?

    Then why isn't it in the media?
     
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    Your points are good. Each race earns it's own reputation.
     
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    In maneuvering around your incredible strawmen you erected, have you ever heard the story of "chicken little"?
     
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    You said yourself in another thread that you believe minorities are oppressed. I asked you to prove it and you ignored me.

    I hope that you really don't believe the things that I say.

    nope. but ive heard about the boy who cried wolf, which sounds like the minority who cried racism too many times.
     
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    sounds like a persecution complex.

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    yep, fantasies of persecution.
     
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    Is this photo-shopped?
     
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    I'm seeing racism from you right here. Does that count?
     
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    My wonder as well. Kind of looks like it's a scene for another "Dune" adaptation.
     
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    By my observation, your experience seems limited.

    ^This right here shows your limited experience. It's really the major flaw of what makes a racist a racist: limited experience, and not enough to show you that your generalizations are wrong.

    Again not enough experience for you to realize how wrong you are. Racism still plays a role in many cases with oppression. On the other hand, there are plenty of black leaders teaching black people to take responsibility and fight their way to success. There are still quite a few who use the blame game on racism for all their failures. But this is discouraged by black leadership. The point that is constantly made in their education is that in many ways they may encounter racist opposition, but to fight on and become successful.

    How old are you? I can gather maybe not as old to witness the era of slavery. But there's still people old enough to remember the civil rights movement. The "whites only" schools, restaurants, bathrooms, and drinking fountains... not racist? Sit in the back of the bus... not racist?

    But even if you're not old enough to remember that, the KKK and other white nationalist groups are still around. Please defend them for me and convince me they're not racist. Please, I am all ears (or eyes).

    Are you f-ing kidding me right now? I'm always hearing white people complain that they didn't get the job because they gave it to a black guy. I'm always hearing white people complaining about afirmative action. I've seen white people come away from a job interview with their head down saying, the guy that interviewed me was black, that's probably why I didn't get the job. Accountability is a major problem for people of all colors.

    White people aren't incompetent?

    I'm happy.

    I'm dismissing it because it's wrong. That it's racist is just an observation.

    You're missing the point.

    I didn't say all whites do. Perhaps the real debate here is: who does it more? No doubt you believe black people do it more. I'll need evidence beyond your own limited experience to convince me that's in any way true.

    The point: sometimes.

    Again, your experience is limited especially when my experiences act contrary to yours.

    The debate is how much truth do they carry. That's what's wrong with generalizations. You're right, generalizations aren't necessarily wrong. What makes them wrong is what's represented in them.

    I know what you were getting at. But your word usage was poor choice. I didn't get offended, because I'm sure you weren't actually comparing blacks to dogs. But someone could get offended by that.

    Being strong and being aggressive are two different things. And rap does not represent the entire black community, believe it or not, not even most.

    Google "Bob's Mantra". That's just one example.
     

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