I Like the IRS! Where did they do anything wrong ?

Sam won't understand anything.

 

It's a privacy issue. Those who claim it on their taxes will give the IRS that information in a round-about way, but that is their business. There are many donors who want to maintain a bit of anonymity.

 

Among other things, the IRS is being accused of providing ProPublica with TEA Party donor information.

 

POLITICAL? How does that preclude them from tax-exempt status or make them a target for more scrutiny? Oh and where does it say there can be no tax-exempt organizations for the rich- not that I buy what you're trying to sell.

 

Well, if that's true, then they voilated the privacy act, and those guilty should be punished according to the law.

 

1. They certainly CAN (and should) deny them (the Tea Party) and allow a democrat organization to get theirs. That is if the democrat organization is truly working in a social welfare function (to combat racial discrimination for example) Denying ALL political organizations tax exemption would be absolutely wrong. This is being done according to requirements, not some bland definition of equality. It depends on if an organization meets those requirements. If the Tea Party were smart, they might apply for 501(c)(4) status based on the social welfare notion of combatting racial discrimination in affirmative action programs, which is exactly what race-based affirmative action programs are. The the IRS would then have a good reason to grant them the status.

2. And if the Tea Party and other so-called conservative organizations only represented a third of the organizations that were scrutinized, and none were denied or going to be denied, then why is this even an issue ?

 

I was a small business owner during the 1980's and an outspoken critic of Ronald Reagan. I got audited an then walloped by the IRS 5 years after the audit (while nobody told me anything was wrong). The IRS piled compounding interest and penalties on me. This guy's story is no worse than mine and lots of other people.

 

Great. We found someone that favors Federal thuggery for political purpose.

 

I explained myself perfectly well enough in the poast you are quoting. I see no need to repeat. Is ther something about the words "social welfare" you can't grasp, or you you have that psuedo-Conservative Reaganist sickness of redefining things to suit your own purposes ? (of stuffing your pockets with as much moneyas you can, and the hell with social welfare)

 

I didn't say I favored it. I just said the guy in the example's experience was no worse or much different than mine and thousands of other people. And I don't accept the notion that it is a "political purposes" thing.

 

They are required to show every dime brought in and every dime spent, how does the IRS know if they are not just laundering money if they don't have to disclose where the money came from? We have to declare all earned income, what makes them so special? Privacy my left butt cheek, it's the IRS and if they were doing their job, by not being political and/or bias, privacy is of no concern, or shouldn't be anyway.

In any case political organizations and Churches should not be tax exempt, unless they are using their money to feed the homeless, care for the needy, and/or help their community. Making sure the right sock puppet gets elected doesn't effectively help the social welfare of the community or anything else for that matter.

 

1. They are combating the tyranny of unfair taxation which obviously isn't in the interest of the IRS.

2. Because it is political. Like I said if they were harassing little old ladies, and small businesses, nothing would have been made of it because they would be doing their job according to the rich/elites that own the media outlets. But when they go after the rich or the rich/elites, 2 parties, or their corporate owned media, you will hear about until you are tired of hearing about it.

 

It would appear that you are the one that is redefining things to suit your purpose. After all, it is you that is making the assumption that every organization with "Patriot" or "Tea Party" in their name is a political organization that has no social welfare qualifications and who's only purpose is to help rich people avoid taxes or are helping the rich become richer. You don't work for the IRS per chance, do you?

 

1. I disagree that the TP is combating the tyranny of unfair taxation. They support unfair taxation, by supporting tax rates that are far below normal American tax rates, which is an unfair deprivation of govt servicdes to the American people.

2. Well no, it's not political if the Tea Party and other so-called conservative organizations only represented a third of the organizations that were scrutinized, and none were denied or going to be denied.

 

Seeing how the IRS apologized for targeting specific groups based on ideology, suppose you tell us?

 

No, I don't work for the IRS. And if anyone here (we could start with you) feels like demonstrating how ANY organization with Patriot or Tea Party in their name, is a political organization that HAS social welfare qualifications (so as to qualify for 501(c)(4) status), let's hear it.

 

No, suppose you tell me, especially since you claim to know all about this illustrious apology.

 

They could have just as much "social welfare" qualifications as this organization does:

http://www.barackobama.com/about/about-ofa

Even though an organization may be essentially political, or even created for political purposes, that does not mean that they can not operate "as a social welfare organization within the meaning of section 501(c)(4) of the Internal Revenue Code".

 

Well, it has been in the news all week but I guess you aren't paying attention.

 

No, thats not all they did.

They also illegally forwarded some of the groups private tax information to the liberal hacks at Pro Publica.

 

Liberals love extortion crime syndicates.

 

So you must hate John Kerry then right?

 

sounds like some employees may have abused their power for political reasons, just like some police officers were abusing their power when pepper spraying ows folks

 

So you DON'T really know about it then ? How about if you state it in 20 words or less. Think you could handle that ? (if you know what it is)

 

So do true conservatives, when the "extortion crime syndicates" are designed to protect the American people from the other "crime syndicates" collectively known as Corporate America, and their running dogs like the Tea Party.