I thought the arctic was melting?

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  1. mamooth

    mamooth Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You poor thing. Now I feel bad. Maybe I should take it easier on you.

    Not what the temperature record says. That's why you have to rave about vinyards. Like I said, that reveals you to be a pseudoscience cultist. You have to reject the solid hard data in favor of fuzzy nebulous data, because the hard data contradicts you.

    Except your peer-reviewed references don't back you up. You just say they do. In contrast, my references back up my claim. For example,

    https://core.ac.uk/download/pdf/12828157.pdf

    Look at page 44. The MWP is barely a blip. Modern temps are higher.

    Your sources are a bunch of conspiracy blogs, not peer reviewed science. No wonder you get everything so wrong.

    Got it. You don't understand the very simple concept of noise around a trend. You really shouldn't be bothering the grownups.

    Your conspiracy blog just lied about what those papers said.

    I've already addressed that cherrypicking fallacy. Schneider is a wild outlier.

    So tell us why that paper, the outlier, should be trusted over all others. Discuss the data and statistics in detail. That is, make sure you say something more than "BECAUSE IT AGREES WITH ME!". If you can't, you're just a cult cheerleader.

    And there it ends, as you're reduced again to blubbering about the world plotting a conspiracy against you after you get ripped apart.

    I'll see you soon, when we can do this all again. That is, you'll eventually be reduced to screaming that all the data is faked.
     
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  2. crank

    crank Well-Known Member

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    A hard way to learn that all we have to do is make better choices, but there it is. Now we know.

    No more excuses!
     
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    Before or after it has been adjusted?
    Adjusted, averaged, homogenized, weighted, smoothed, etc. data are many things, but "hard" is not one of them.
    False.
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    They definitely do.
    On occasion.
    Nothing but tenuous and cherry-picked proxy derivations.
    Already proved false.
    Got it: you don't understand that the up- or down-phase of a cycle is not a trend.

    You really shouldn't be bothering the grownups.
    The irony!
    False.
    No, your "sources" committed it.
    Except that it agrees with the physical evidence.
    Why falsely claim that "all" other papers disagree?
    I don't have time to hold your hand while teaching you high school science.
    I have provided detailed physical explanations.
    You continue to make multiple false claims per sentence.
    So far, they haven't been able to fake the non-disappearance of arctic sea ice, or the non-appearance of millions of climate refugees. But it's still early days.
     
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    AFM Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    But all the ice is gone. The Russians have been filling the arctic circle with shaving to make it seem like there is ice there. Adam Schiff says so. :D
     
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    Cooling trends get little coverage.

    Great Britain October Mean Temperatures Cooling Since 1995
    Posted on November 25, 2020 by Kirye
    Hi, everyone.
    Today, I made a chart of UK mean monthly temperatures for October using data from the Japan meteorological Agency(JMA).

    11 of 14 stations which have the data since the 1980’s show October mean temperatures have been cooling or have no trend for 26 years.

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    Similar patterns were seen other months. Examples: here and here.

    As we all know, our mainstream media has been hijacked by climate alarmists and are ignoring such trends.

    If you want check out other European charts for October I made, you can check them here and here.
     
  6. Sunsettommy

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    Several warmist/alarmists scientists predicted the Arctic summer will be free of ice as early as 2008, yet here we are still waiting for that predicted summer ice free time to finally be revealed.

    Meanwhile the Polar Bear population isn't declining at all..............
     

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