I wonder if the minimum wage workers at Godfather's Pizza think Cain is "pro-worker"

No it is pretty much settled, even now through this crisis we see crime rates dropping not increasing.

I would not put myself into such a situation and those who are have plenty of resources to help them if they so choose.

Why? You do realize that if the gap between the bottom and the top does not increase it means the economy is shrinking. That would not be good. In a growing and vibrant economy the gap will ALWAYS increase. The bottom is limited by 0 the top is unlimited, so in a growing economy, an EXPANDING economy the gap will increase.

The whole wealth income gap thing is a liberal red herring.

 

Actually there are many poor countries where crime is extremely low. The ones which have tumbled into anarchy aren't but most of those are there because the economy crumbled when they ran off the wealthy and lost all tax base and leaders proclaiming to be "for the people" took over.

 

yes I know that many third world countries are like that because the governments are corrupt and they don't allow foreign investment, or at least not controlling ownership. My point is the answer is not to just cut everyone loose or it just compounds the problem!

 

So, It's settled? Your right, I'm wrong. No debate. No consideration that my point of view is a valid one and has just as much chance of happening as yours? Really? I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.

http://www.kltv.com/story/5793354/shelters-strained-from-homeless-care?redirected=true

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/19/AR2008111900095.html

Many shelters and food banks are being strained to the breaking point with the increase in the number of poor. And it's not just single individuals, Whole families are finding themselves in the streets. Do you really believe it's possible that charities will be able to help them all? I do not. I think eventually there will be many families that slip through the cracks.

As for the wealth gap increasing being a good thing, It may be a good thing if the increase was the result of more and more rich, But it is not. The increase involves more and more POOR. The graph line is moving down, Not up. We should be wanting it to move up.

At any rate, I'm done trying to debate this issue. I don't believe there is anything I could say that could sway your feelings on this issue, Or even convince you to acknowledge the validity of my point of view.

Thank you for your time.

 

Yes, the issue was the crime rate as the economy worsens and does a bad economy force people to turn to crime to survive.

FBI: Big drops in crime rates in first half of '09

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34510483/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/#.Tp4963LnDSU


What's Behind America's Falling Crime Rate
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1963761,00.html

FBI reports 5% drop in crime rate
http://articles.latimes.com/2010/sep/14/nation/la-na-crime-rate-20100914

US crime figures: Why the drop?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-13799616

Well they seem to be doing a pretty good job of it but in the meantime why don't we do the things we need to do to get the economy going SO THEY ARE WORKING!

There is a floor. $0, it can't go lower. There is no ceiling, it goes to the end of the universe. That gap will always grow if we have a vibrant growing economy, if it doesn't then we are contracting.

It's not about feelings, it is about economic fact.

 

I think it would be more like anarchy because people would be pissed out getting their hand slapped away waiting for their next freebie, not because they are starving to death in the streets. It will be a shocker when they are told they might actually have to get up off their asses and go to work to earn their money.

LOL! I know many, many cops here in NYC (most of my family). Let me tell you something, I often hear about 'their day,' what they did, their arrests and things of that nature. I can't think of one time they told me they arrested someone for robbing someone of their money to go buy food or breaking into their house to get to the food pantry. More like robbing someone to pay for those 5K 24" spinners they want on their truck and stealing someone's 50" LED Samsung because they think their TV is too small in their apartment.

 

I'm not sure why so many people on this board assume that everyone that is poor are lazy and would rather take (by force or otherwise) money from people without contributing anything themselves.

I implore you to think outside the box. There are many lower-middle class and poor people that are not lazy. They work hard to keep themselves above the poverty line, But may or may not succeed due to a VARIETY of reason, Not all of which are their fault.

As for your claim that people only commit crimes to keep up their lifestyle, Again please stop generalizing. A truly poor person that is homeless would have already sold their major high-end possessions to buy food or shelter. Again, If YOU were homeless and hungry, and could not get a job or help from someone else like charity, Would you just starve? Or would you rob money from someone to buy some food to survive? How much is your life worth to you?

Just to forestall the inevitable attack on me: YES, If I were homeless and starving, And could not get a job or help from any charities or family, I would steal to buy food to survive.

Thank you for your time.

 

well...thats life isn't it as some of us actually have to work for a living!

 

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jv1Zae0sgo"]Sowell/Williams Minimum Wage[/ame]

 

So how long do you think they will hold up doing the work themselves?????

 

It's imperative you watch the Documentary " Park Avenue " on Netflix