At least the "Dems" aren't trying to make more of the less fortunate to "work the fields cheap" by forcing women to give birth like cattle.. Now, make up your mind ...do Dems have bleeding hearts ? (and want taxes to help social programs for the poor instead of cutting funding to things like WIC which REPUBS want to do BECAUSE it aids poor CHILDREN?) YOU say Dems don't care about the less fortunate even though THEY are Pro-Choice which certainly helps the less fortunate ....and the Repubs want to force women to give birth so they can BE the less fortunate..... You seem confused..... ........
eugenics: the science of improving a human population by controlled breeding to increase the occurrence of desirable heritable characteristics. Developed largely by Francis Galton as a method of improving the human race, it fell into disfavor only after the perversion of its doctrines by the Nazis.
Neither side gives a damn! I guess you can feel good about yourself for pushing programs that keep people in poverty while almost guaranteeing them an unhealthy, short life. As long as you ignore results, it seems like a good plan! Some people actually walk the walk and help others. They have my respect regardless of their political affiliation.
When did he not believe in federal funding for FEMA? Please show me where Gregg Abbott talked against federal funding for FEMA in the past?
Anyone who actually supports this is a ****ing Nazi in the most literal sense. https://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10005200 Nazi Germany's First Program of Mass Murder The "euthanasia" program was Nazi Germany's first program of mass murder. It predated the genocide of European Jewry (the Holocaust) by approximately two years. The program was one of many radical eugenic measures which aimed to restore the racial "integrity" of the German nation. It aimed to eliminate what eugenicists and their supporters considered "life unworthy of life": those individuals who—they believed—because of severe psychiatric, neurological, or physical disabilities represented both a genetic and a financial burden on German society and the state. Child "Euthanasia" Program In the spring and summer months of 1939, a number of planners began to organize a secret killing operation targeting disabled children. They were led by Philipp Bouhler, the director of Hitler's private chancellery, and Karl Brandt, Hitler's attending physician. On August 18, 1939, the Reich Ministry of the Interior circulated a decree requiring all physicians, nurses, and midwives to report newborn infants and children under the age of three who showed signs of severe mental or physical disability. Beginning in October 1939, public health authorities began to encourage parents of children with disabilities to admit their young children to one of a number of specially designated pediatric clinics throughout Germany and Austria. In reality, the clinics were children's killing wards. There, specially recruited medical staff murdered their young charges by lethal overdoses of medication or by starvation. At first, medical professionals and clinic administrators included only infants and toddlers in the operation. As the scope of the measure widened, they included youths up to 17 years of age. Conservative estimates suggest that at least 5,000 physically and mentally disabled German children perished as a result of the child "euthanasia" program during the war years.
Oh knock it off with the semantics. The only difference is that now we can test for stuff like Down syndrome, the Nazis would literally have done the same thing if they had our technology. If you are actually defending aborting fetuses because they have a non-life threatening birth defect then you are no better than a Nazi. What about aborting for reasons like heart murmurs or any number of other birth defects that cost money to fix or might be life long conditions? What kind of self centered ******* actually thinks that they have the right to determine how happy someone will be or what makes them happy and what physical or mental traits make a person happy. This is no different than the idiotic argument that women who are poor should abort their children because the child is more likely to grow up in poverty, once again the same argument that those disgusting eugenicists used at the turn of the century. Once you start down this path of picking and choosing which babies are born based on they physical and mental characteristics then society has turned into the Nazis. This is literally a reincarnation of eugenics where only perfect people should be allowed to live. Disgusting stuff like this is what will probably eventually turn me from being pro-choice to pro-life.
Oh cut the flamebaiting "you are a Nazi" crap. Women have the right to abort for any reason THEY choose.....NOBODY needs, or wants, your permission or acceptance. ...and it isn't "semantics"...it's using proper grownup scientific terms for what a fetus is....you can call it a kumquat and a fetus will be a fetus....the term "baby " is used by those with no facts on their side and need emotion to sway people. The same kind of self centered ******* who thinks they have the right to determine how happy someone will be or what makes them happy and what physical or mental traits make a person happy AND FORCE WOMEN TO GIVE BIRTH to a baby with disabilities. I have NEVER said a woman SHOULD abort....I have only defended women's right to abort IF THEY CHOOSE. Once you start down the path of restricting women's right to their own body then society has turned into the Nazis. What! You think you're Pro-Choice!??? YOU get to choose but no one else does....is that WHAT YOU mean by "Pro-Choice"? Now here's a conundrum for ya....what if a woman finds she has a Downs fetus and decides she doesn't want any baby at all? Would you FORCE her to have it to make a point? In other words, again, women have the right to abort for ANY reason....ANY reason....
For **** sake the screening test (which is what they say they are using) is only 85% accurate. They aren't even relying on the diagnostic tests. How many perfectly healthy babies were killed because of false positives? This isn't about a woman choosing to have or not have a child. This is about a woman who has already decided that she is going to have a child deciding of that baby is good enough or will be happy. Murderers make the argument that a child with down syndrome won't be happy. Once again what kind of ****ing ******* decides whether or not someone else will be happy. Should we also abort midgets and dwarves as well? They have to deal with a lot of crap over their lives. Once again since you are incapable of seeing the difference. This isn't a woman deciding whether or not to have a child. A woman getting an abortion simply because she doesn't want to have a baby wouldn't bother with prenatal testing. This is a woman deciding on what kind of baby is genetically good enough to have. This isn't a rare genetic condition or one of those babies that is born with no brain, this is Down syndrome which is most definitely not a life threatening condition and many people with Down syndrome leave normal happy lives, just like many dwarves and midgets leave normal happy lives.
YUP! The pregnant woman gets to decide PERIOD....not you. Is that what bothers you? The same kind of self centered ******* who thinks they have the right to determine how happy someone will be or what makes them happy and what physical or mental traits make a person happy AND FORCE WOMEN TO GIVE BIRTH to a baby with disabilities. Yes, it is. Who are you to decide who will be happy and who won't???
I dont decide that is the point. I leave it up to the actual person to decide on how to live their lives. Aborting a fetus that you were planning on having simply because it has Down syndrome is NOT defensible in any way shape or form. We are not that far off from the ability to map out someones life based on their DNA. What if the baby has genetic markers that make it prone to heart disease down the road. Maybe he has genetic markers for increase rates of cancer? At what point do we end up with a society that is nothing but tall good looking geniuses with no room for anyone else. You think there is class divide now imagine how much of a divide there will be between the genetically elite and normal humans. It won't take much for them to regard normal people as "less than human" sort of like how proponents of this see people with Down syndrome as subhuman.
YOU JUST SAID YOU don't decide!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Make up your mind. ....people who don't have hereditary or congenital diseases? THAT would be NICE! Blather..... I never said those with Down's were subhuman, why would you say that ? To mislead and divert? BTW, ban abortion and only wealthy women will have abortions Want that? If women are banned from having abortions it won't take much longer to regard them as "less than human" ..sort of like Anti-Choicers do now.
What is the determining factor to be used, CKW? Regardless to what is currently said about LBGTs being born that way, I still contend that sexuality is a learned behavior, this includes heterosexuality; we learn to be heterosexual from our parents and other relatives and the same principle equally applies to LBGTs. I am not saying that the parents actively taught the children or child to be that way, but it was something shown and the child or children translated what was seen (shown). It is also equally true that when the wife is dissatisfied, she will teach the children to be dissatisfied, again, translation or active. Knowing this, parents should be careful as to what is shown and seen by the children, including monitoring television, radio, music, etc. Children are special, they learn through sight mostly and not what is spoken. This is why I never fully comprehended the parental adage of: “Do as I say, not as I do.”
OMGAWD! What a load of blarney! Humans are BORN with sexuality, a sex drive, it isn't taught! How preposterous and asinine!!!!
ZEF = baby when you talk about the fetus you tak about a baby. If you want to use fetus fine, I use baby the equally appropriate baby.
Its called proper English as use by the various womens health, medical and government cites I have quoted if you want to childishly put your hands over your ears ao be it I will continue to use proper terms. And why do you keep repeating that women have a right to kill their unborn baby as if making a point? I have agreed to stipulate the the law allows them to do so.
You really thonk that? Some women kill theirbunborn baby forbother self seving reasons you know. It the cae here we are talking about extermjnating thoae with Downs Syndrome so they have no such persons in their population as they believe they are less worthy. You seem to hold the same position am I correct?
FoxHastings said: ↑ Yes, dear, every woman who aborts, or has aborted, is in on an Evil Plan to create a master race .........and those who fight to preserve women's rights are in on the Evil Plan, too... Of course I don't "thonk" that, I was being facetious and ridiculing another. You: "" It the cae here we are talking about extermjnating thoae with Downs Syndrome so they have no such persons in their population as they believe they are less worthy."" Well THAT took some deciphering!!! ...and no, I don't think a fetus with Downs is "less worthy" But if a woman doesn't want to have a kid with Downs , she has the right to choose to have it or not....her rights don't change because the fetus has something wrong with it, that's idiotic.
some on the right say it's God that causes birth defects as a punishment for our sins "Virginia GOP lt. governor nominee: birth defects caused by sin" https://www.arktimes.com/ArkansasBl...-governor-nominee-birth-defects-caused-by-sin course they also say things like this "Republican politician says rape and incest part of God's will" http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...resentatives-lord-circumstances-a7645061.html
