Idiots with guns, once again

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by Ronstar, Sep 21, 2018.

  1. Vegas giants

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    Yep. We can not talk about ANY problem in the US other than heart disease. Why are we worried about terrorists when we have not fixed heart disease? LOL
     
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    What the what???
     
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    Which is totally impossible to do.
     
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    I disagree. It's incumbent upon someone making a claim to be able to support it with unbiased sources.
     
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    That's the way it works, don't like it, don't debate.
     
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    What a crock of horse manure
     
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    Uh.... no.
    You make the claim, onus is on you to support it.
    That's the way debating works.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burden_of_proof_(philosophy)
     
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    Agreed. After all the BS from the 2013 anti-gun bill, I stocked and have two each of those rifles along with a few thousand rounds of ammo.
     
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    ...unless you're a gun-banning Lefty, then you don't have to provide links, only spitballs. :)
     
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    What areas have the most guns? And why aren't there deaths there? When is the last time you you heard of a shoot up at a police department?
     
  13. Well Bonded

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    Nope, if someone believes something posted by another is incorrect, it is upon them to prove them incorrect.

    That is debating 101 and has been forever.
     
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    In 242 years Americans always owned guns. The sniveling has only started in about the last 20. Gun control idiots are just that: Idiots. Guns are not the problem, the problem is freakish Leftists and their violence and their godless evil. Evil makes someone do school shootings, not guns.
     
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    -You- don't even have to think the nonsense you post is true...
     
  16. Max Rockatansky

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    Correct. The authoritarian Left is already working on that one by banning 36 oz drinks in New York. When will they mandate a specific calorie level per day to every American?
     
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    Only if the claims are way out of factual, what I post is easily confirmed with a simple Google search.

    Or go to a newspaper and pay a fee to pull a few decades old microfiche, which I am not going to do.

    I have been there, understand what happened and don't have to prove to any uninformed keyboard warrior what I know to be a fact.

    It's not worth my time or money.
     
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    Forever seems to be a very short time.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burden_of_proof_(philosophy)

    Edit: Oh, wait, this is irony. You're making a claim and not backing it up. Gotcha.
     
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    Guess you were never in a real debate. What you just described, is BS.
     
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    Agreed. Hundreds of thousands of Americans die each year for those causes along with over 30,000 per year due to auto accidents but the anti-gun Left only wants to discuss the 6000-8000/year who are murdered with guns....very few of which are done with an "AR". Most are handguns. When an anti-gunner says they want to stop gun deaths, they mean ban handguns.
     
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    “People are saying, “
    Does that work for Trump Humpers .? .
     
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    "5. He who asserts must prove. In order to establish an assertion, the team must support it with enough evidence and logic to convince an intelligent but previously uninformed person that it is more reasonable to believe the assertion than to disbelieve it. Facts must be accurate. Visual materials are permissible, and once introduced, they become available for the opponents' use if desired."

    http://homepage.ntu.edu.tw/~karchung/debate1.htm
     
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    Sounds like good reasons for universal healthcare.
     
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    Really when was the last time you watched a Presid
     

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