If Biden wins he's coming after our guns. He Tweeted that today

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  1. ChiCowboy

    ChiCowboy Well-Known Member

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    Of course. That doesn't stop extremists from lying about though.
     
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    I do bout the same.
     
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    Quality springs or no, after sitting there for years compressed, you are asking for problems.

    Additionally, these are guns I already have.
     
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    Bump stocks are now banned nation wide no?
     
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    It wasn't cryptic to me.
     
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    Not cryptic to me either. Pretty obvious to critical thinkers. :)
     
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    I don't hunt either, but I do know that very few hunters always kill the animal with the first shot. Some do, sometimes, but some don't, it happens. This is why I don't agree with making semi-auto weapons illegal. You have to be able to follow a missed kill shot quickly. Chasing even a wounded animal is very hard on the fittest hunter, painful in the extreme to the poor animal and dangerous as all get out to anyone else in the forest or even those living nearby

    Guns should never be your first choice for self-defense. Your first choices there are situational awareness and cautionary common sense. The best sort of confrontation is always the one that doesn't happen.
     
  8. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    So restate it in terms I can understand. I apologize for my stupidity.
     
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    Just because it is not my first choice, does not mean I am should not do it.

    I live in the country with law enforcement at at least fifteen minutes away. Houses in the area have been broken into by hoodlums for a large city a couple of hours away.
     
  10. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    No question there. My problem is with people who have several expensive pistols they have never fired but whose only canine companion is a tiny poodle and whose locks will yield to a credit card. A major problem I have with guns is they give one an unwarranted feeling of confidence. I knew a policeman once who said he was once on a burglary squad whose major target was gangs who went after guns as their major form of loot.
     
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    Your limit is arbitrary, capricious and without rational basis.
    You know this, of course
     
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    How, in your mind, does this translate to the constitutional permissibility of requiring a permit for the basic ownership of a firearm?
    Can the state similarity require a permit to go to your mosque? To have an abortion?
     
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    :lol:
    You're completely ignorant on Biden's stated policy position on gun control.
    :lol:
     
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    :lol:
    What % of firearms have been used in mass shootings?
     
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    Lying about... Biden's plan to confiscate rifles, shotguns and handguns?
     
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    We have four pistols. I fire a couple of them regularly. Since I live in the country I can target practice off of my back porch. I go into the woods regularly. There are a number of wild animals. I see them regularly on my game cameras. Generally, they are not a problem, but you get between a Mama and her cubs and you could be in trouble.

    How about I don't criticize your life style since I know nothing about it and you don't criticize my life style because you know nothing about. it.
     
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    As a firearm is unquestionably an effective tool for self-defense, how is the feeling "unwarranted"?
    With this firmly in mind, tell us what you think about newspapers publishing the names and addresses of gun owners?
    https://www.cnn.com/2012/12/25/us/new-york-gun-permit-map/index.html
    If a criminal uses this information to steal someones gun(s), should the paper be held liable? Why not?
     
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    Cain slew Abel with a rock. Liberal logic demands we ban all gravel pits.
     
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    I agree that avoiding dangerous areas, being aware of your surroundings and common sense are good ways to avoid trouble but many people do not always have the option of living in "good" neighborhoods.
    In 1980, the only home I could afford after years of renting was in a rough neighborhood where there were about 3 times when having a gun saved me from predators whose intent was not to make me any healthier, wealthier or happier.

    I didn't feel like I was looking for trouble and was simply not going to let the city's criminal element rule my choices.

    Now, I live in a rural area in which the police are at least 15 minutes away so it seems essential to own and be proficient in the use of a firearm.

    I really can't see the down side for owning and being proficient in the use of a firearm
     
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    It's a characteristic of the leftist breed. The braying of, say, a donkey. Talk about symbology.....
     
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    Cut it out. (A little knife metaphor for you.)
     
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    If you make it yourself it is lawful to possess and use under normal circumstances such as hunting, target practice. Finding the schematics for complicated efforts like that would admittedly be difficult at best in today's political climate. It's not a weekend basement project but requires proper tools and skill...but it can be done.
     
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    Again there are burglars who SPECIALIZE in firearms. These are usually consummate professionals and you will never encounter one but you really don't want to either.

    A firearm can be nice IF you are willing to take the time and trouble to stay proficient in its use. Otherwise, it's a greater danger to you than anyone else
     
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    With this firmly in mind, tell us what you think about newspapers publishing the names and addresses of gun owners?
    https://www.cnn.com/2012/12/25/us/new-york-gun-permit-map/index.html
    If a criminal uses this information to steal someones gun(s), should the paper be held liable? Why not?
     

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