If Islamic terrorism was halted, would our Jihad problems be over?

Goomba · Feb 23, 2015

RiseAgainst said: ↑

Non-arabic translations of the Quran are not fully accurate. They are watered down to make Islam appear less barbaric than it actually is.

You dont want to dance with me Margot. I have sources very high up that have proven this. Try your bs on someone not in the know. There are plenty to pick from.
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Cool, let's see these "very high" sources.

Pregnar Kraps · Feb 23, 2015

RiseAgainst said: ↑

Non-arabic translations of the Quran are not fully accurate. They are watered down to make Islam appear less barbaric than it actually is.

You dont want to dance with me Margot. I have sources very high up that have proven this. Try your bs on someone not in the know. There are plenty to pick from.
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And not only are they watered down, but they are all made to be as confusing and hard to understand as possible.

That helps explain why we Kafirs are so ignorant to the truth.

We owe Dr. Bill Warner a HUGE debt of gratitude for making the effort to uncomplicate the message of the Trilogy (Koran, Sira & Hadith) for us Kafirs to understand.

His books and lectures and articles and interviews and such are all very easy to understand and all but the books are free of charge at his website, the Center for the Study of Political Islam.

The Trilogy Project

The Trilogy Project was developed to make Islam’s three sacred texts, Koran, Sira and Hadith understandable to the ordinary person. It was based upon scientific principles and objective methods, so that any independent person could achieve the same results if they used the same methods.

All Islamic doctrine is based on words of Allah and the Sunna (words and actions) of Mohammed. Allah is found in the Koran and Mohammed is found in the Sira (biography) and the Hadith (traditions). All of Islam is based on Koran, Sira, and Hadith. If it is in the Trilogy, it is Islam. If it is not in the Trilogy, then it is not Islam. To know Islam, know the Trilogy.

The problem in knowing the Trilogy is that the Koran, Sira, and Hadith were designed to be difficult to understand. There is only one way for them to be understood — they must be viewed as a systemic whole, not three separate books.

The CSPI books had to be fact-based and self-authenticating. In a sense, each book had to be a map to the original text. Nearly every paragraph in the CSPI book series has a reference number that allows the reader to go to the source text and verify what is written. If you don’t believe it or want more details, you can go the reference number and read the original.

The Sira

Here is an example from Mohammed and the Unbelievers, the Sira:

I552 The assassins’ wounded friend lagged behind, so they carried him back with them. When they got back to Mohammed, he was praying. They told him they had killed the enemy of Allah and their attack had terrorized all the Jews. There was no Jew in Medina who was not afraid.

Here is the original source text: Ishaq margin note 552:

552 Our friend al-Harith had lagged behind, weakened by loss of blood, so we waited for him for some time until he came up, following our tracks. We carried him and brought him to the apostle [Mohammed] at the end of the night. We saluted him as he stood praying, and he came out to us, and we told him that we had killed God’s enemy. He spat upon our comrade’s wounds, and both he and we returned to our families. Our attack upon God’s enemy cast terror among the Jews, and there was no Jew in Medina who did not fear for his life.

The Hadith

The Hadith, collected by Bukhari, has over 6800 traditions. The text is confusing since there is so much repetition. The same tradition may be repeated a dozen times. Only about a quarter of the traditions relate to politics, the rest are purely religious. The first step is to collect all the traditions that deal with Kafirs. The Kafir material is political, since it deals with those outside of Islam. Then all of those that are similar are summarized into a single tradition. This method makes all of the political traditions easily understood. The remaining traditions, such as prayer, apply only to Muslims and are of little interest to Kafirs.

Collecting those traditions that apply to Kafirs and summarizing the repeated ones clarifies the text and makes Political Islam simple to understand. This work resulted in The Political Traditions of Mohammed.

The Koran

The Koran is made readable by reproducing the historical Koran of Mohammed’s day. This is accomplished by arranging the Koran in the original order (the one in the bookstore is arranged in order of chapter length). Then the similar sections are combined (for instance, the story of Moses is told 39 times). The final step is to take Mohammed’s life from the Sira and integrate it into the Koran verses to give the verses context. These steps reproduce the historical Koran. The resulting document is now easily read, A Simple Koran.

Anyone can take these same steps and produce similar versions of the original Trilogy.

People assume that you must understand Arabic or have a university degree in Islam to understand Islam’s texts. However, look at these scholars’ history. After 1400 years they have produced scholarly papers for presentations at scholarly meetings, but they have not made the material available to the common person.

The work stands on its own. The only person that matters in discussing Islam is not the “expert” but Mohammed. Every paragraph of our books is referenced to what Mohammed did and said (his Sunna). Each paragraph can be verified by the use of the reference numbers.

Our books are fact-based knowledge, not opinion. Mohammed is our expert. We quote him in every paragraph.
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http://www.politicalislam.com/trilogy-project/

RiseAgainst · Feb 23, 2015

Pregnar Kraps said: ↑

And not only are they watered down, but they are all made to be as confusing and hard to understand as possible.

That helps explain why we Kafirs are so ignorant to the truth.

We owe Dr. Bill Warner a HUGE debt of gratitude for making the effort to uncomplicate the message of the Trilogy (Koran, Sira & Hadith) for us Kafirs to understand.

His books and lectures and articles and interviews and such are all very easy to understand and all but the books are free of charge at his website, the Center for the Study of Political Islam.[/FONT]

http://www.politicalislam.com/trilogy-project/
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I know several Arab Chistians and agnostic Arabs who tell me Bill Warner is spot on and a very intelligent man. All of these arabs spent their entire lives growing up in Islamic countries. These are men ranging from business owners, to professors, to computer scientists, engineers, and one is even an arabic translator working for the D.I.A.

They have all sung the same tune about Islam as Bill Warner does and these are men with first hand knowledge and experiences on the topic. I think they know a little bit more about Islam than non-arabic speaking, politically correct liberals in western countries.

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