If progressives aren't socialists/communists then why.....

do all their talking points match the talking points on these sites?

http://cpusa.org/

http://socialistparty-usa.net/

Is it just a coincidence? Or where there's smoke there's fire.

 

Of course they are. Be prepared for the raft of progressive commie/socialists who claim that you don't know the definition of any of those words.

 

Unfortunately for them, I know the definitions better than they do.

 

from the very web site you linked.....



Obama's Not a Socialist- But We Are!

“People call me a socialist sometimes. But, no, you’ve got to meet actual socialists. You’ll have a sense of what a socialist is,” Mr. Obama said. “I’m talking about lowering the corporate tax rate. My health-care reform is based on the private marketplace. The stock market is looking pretty good last time I checked.” We agree Mr. Obama, you're NOT a socialist, but we ARE.

 

[video=youtube;vAykmQGfhK8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAykmQGfhK8[/video]

 

First rule of commie club. Don't acknowledge the existence of commie club.

 

Second rule of Commie Club....tell everyone they are a member but only invite a small group to Commie Club meetings!!

AboveAlpha

 

Both of those are tiny parties which do no represent the ideas of the mostly disorganized socialist left. But the CPUSA certainly is liberal.

 

Why do Americans always have to twist the English language?

 

ARE YOU KIDDING!!????

I have been to the U.K. and Aussieville many times and half the time I can't understand a THING people from either country are saying!!!

At least both people from the U.K.and Aussies completely understand what I am saying when I am there.

AboveAlpha

 

You do a disservice to a good novel when you adapt that quote from fight club for a cheap shot against the left. But maybe in fight club you only see a story about men fighting, not an exploration of alienation under capitalism and the rise of fascism. I would expect no less.

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I think he's talking about twisting phrases and words until they mean their opposite - Orwellian language.

 

Even still....who does this better than a BRIT???

AboveAlpha

 

Reading from the CP page

and

I understand the need for propaganda but if your vision is of a country and a state i can not identify with you ,

SP gets it mostly right .

On topic it is not surprising that voters of mainstream parties have no clue about anything.

 

I have to keep reminding myself that some of the older generation still see "socialist" as a four-letter word.

 

???? lots of groups talk about common concerns in order to become accepted.

The communist and socialist parties are the only people honoring Mandela?

Whatever.

 

That's why EVERYTHING the left parrots is contained on both websites.

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READ the websites over say a month. Then come back to me.

 

Yep. Fascism. Brought out about by big government leftists.

Still using your computer when so many don't have one comrade? Invite the proletariat to share your home and bandwidth my friend! Prove you are communist! Sell your corporate goods and live off the land!

 

Ever read animal farm? Figure out that commies always follow the same pattern?

My only solace in all this is that should you lefties ever get your wish it is those people, the disillusioned left that see their utopia not going to plan in a totalitarian state that are first against the wall, snowball.

When you can explain specifically how one buys ice cream in your "utopia" without a massive government police state I will believe you arent totalitarian. Until then your ideas don't hold weight because you can't even describe how the most basic acts would occur.

 

This in a nut shell. One would think progressive comes from the verb to progress now wouldn't you, meaning to move forward?

American politics is a loopy as bat sh!t and still in the Dark Ages.

 

I do not know what what ideology you guys think I follow. I am not a Buddhist monk. I do a lot for the poor actually.

 

Animal farm was written by a socialist who faught on the side of the Anarchists during the civil war. It is specifically a critique of Stalinism.

Must all your arguments come from a place of ignorance?

 

I've been telling liberals something like this for years. I say, 'I watch Fox News, and I get both sides'. They say, "Those liberal guests on that network are not real liberals". I say, "Then why do their talking points match yours EXACTLY?"

 

Oh I know. But that is how all commie stories end. You cant have anarachy and communism, unless you are just calling people with government powers something other then "government" and playing pretend. That is why you dodge specifics on multiple occasions.

 

Shh....we can't have people finding out about Obama's flirtation with the New Party or the fact he launched his political career in the living room of an unrepentant socialist terrorist...

 

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