If Protesters Are Blocking The Road, Should It Be Legal To Run Them Down?

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If Protesters Are Blocking The Road, Should It Be Legal To Run Them Down With A Vehicle?

  1. Yes, if they are blocking the road it should be legal to run them over. (I am Right Wing)

  2. Yes, if they are blocking the road it should be legal to run them over. (I am Left Wing)

  3. No, it should not be legal to run protesters blocking the road over. (I am Right Wing)

  4. No, it should not be legal to run protesters blocking the road over. (I am Left Wing)

  5. I like to pretend to be a centrist so im not going to answer.

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  1. ManifestDestiny

    ManifestDestiny Well-Known Member

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    I have seen far too many people who openly, albeit anonymously, claim that the protesters deserved what was coming to them because they were standing in the road. The reason for this poll is to show how truly radical the Right Wing has become. Im not talking about any other factors, such as rocks being thrown or people hitting your car etc, im simply talking about if there is a group of protesters blocking the road and thats it.

    So again, the question is "If protesters are blocking the road, should it be legal to run them down with a vehicle?"

    Keep in mind, this would of made it entirely legal to run down MLK.
     
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  2. Crawdadr

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    Um, no, it is not right to kill someone for blocking the road. Besides pedestrians have the right of way.
     
  3. A random man

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    No obviously it should never be okay.
     
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    NEVER!
     
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    NO!
     
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    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    I don't think your poll is showing what you want it to show.....
     
  7. JakeJ

    JakeJ Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It is an incomplete poll. IF protesters in the road angrily approach a car they have blocked and any are holding anything that could be a weapon or could shatter the vehicle's window, the driver has every right to do anything to get away from there in self defense, even running over protesters.
    However, running over protesters merely for being the the road? No.

    Rather simple legal issues involved.
     
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    JakeJ Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why are so many polls so stupidly worded?
     
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    Protesting is legal, running people over is not.
     
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  10. ManifestDestiny

    ManifestDestiny Well-Known Member

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    Well as you can see,

    They do still support running them over but they simply dont want to vote that way on the poll because they know it makes them look bad, so they do this. He says if they are holding anything that could be used as a weapon...That means those flags they are holding? You have a weapon, therefore he should be able to run you over. Maybe he has a rock in his hand? He should be able to run you over. You hear a knock on your car? Maybe someone might of threw a rock at your car? You should be able to run everyone over in your way.

    Think about it, just "angrily approaching a car" and "holding anything that could be a weapon" is grounds for running people over in his eyes, so its not JUST blocking the road, its if you are blocking the road and look angry? This is whats called "moving the goal post", a very cheap tactic.
     
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    Didn't vote. My vote is yes, run them over if it is self-defense and your life depends on it.
     
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    The polls was overly simplistic, no different that having a poll "should it be legal to shoot someone? Yes or No? Its not that simple.

    Standing in the road blocking traffic to protest is a criminal offense. If approaching a blocked vehicle the mob blocked with a weapon added to it, yes a person has a right to self defense in that situation - meaning to escape. Your attempt to shift it to other situations is just a diversion from the obvious. I answered. If an angry mob blocks in a car and is approaching the car with weapons that can shatter the window, yes, in my opinion that person can do whatever is reasonably necessary to get away. That is NOT what happened in Charlottesville.

    I would take the same stance to not being in a vehicle. You are walking down a sidewalk. An angry mob surrounds you, preventing your leaving, ranting at you and they have weapons. Do you have a right to self defense even if that means hurting someone? Or do you have to wait until you have been knocked to the ground and being stomped and beaten to death first? I do NOT accept the leftwing view that people have an ethnical duty to allow themselves to be murdered or assaulted. In the protester situation, it is the person in the car that is totally innocent of anything, not the people criminally blocking the car, which also then is felony illegal imprisonment - and in essentially ever state a person can use force including deadly force to escape.

    What about an angry mob traps you in a room, ranting at you and circling you closer and closer with weapons? Any right of you to use force to escape?

    Protesters should stay out of the road and have no right to confront people in an aggressive, threatening manner who just happen to be driving down the road. It is serious criminal conduct and a person does not have to trust criminals being aggressive at you in their criminality.

    Further, I have explained I don't like protesters, any protesters, to the extent I believe there should be zero tolerance of criminal conduct, including blocking roads unless there is a permit to shut down a road for the protest by the governmental authority.

    I answered your question. Twice. Didn't hedge at all.

    Ok, your turn to answer. A woman is driving alone on an empty road at night and a guy jumps out in front of the car, holding a rock. Road too narrow to swerve. Not enough distance to stop well before him and back up or turn around. Does she have to stop? What about an unarmed guy driving that car on an empty road at night? Does he?
     
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    The entire premise of the thread is bigotry.

    And based on your poll, only left wingers think it's all to run down rioters.
     
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    If a mob is attacking my car then I would not concern myself too much with their well being. If they are keeping to themselves I would slowly push my way inch by inch.
     
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    Blocking a roadway and illegal imprisonment is not legal. The poll question is NOT "Is it illegal to run over protesters?"
     
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    What if there's a fire & you're trying to get to it?

    What if you're JUST clinging to life, in the back of an ambulance?
     
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    It also depends on the vehicle, driver and circumstance. If it an ambulance and the person being transported life is on the line, I say hit the sirens and keep going. Otherwise the driver would be joining into a murder.
     
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    It also is a stupid poll because most people are centrists and very few are pure "left" or pure "right." Not even on this forum.
     
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    If they are not of the group that is threatening or attacking me then I have no right to put their lives at risk just because my life is at risk. It would no longer be a matter of self defense.
     
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    Ok, well then, what if they are?
     
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    No, you don't have a right to run them over just for blocking a road.

    Yes, you do have a right to run them over if the mob comes at you in a threatening manner or attacks you, if it is the only means of escape. Running them over to escape being assaulted is perfectly legal.
     
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    Then they have decided to threaten my life an theirs is forfeit.
     
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    Drive through them. Why wouldn't I.
     
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    Just checking.

    A while back on another site I go to, some with initial posts on the subject like yours answered less than honestly.
     
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    They have decided to threaten y life, and theirs is forfeit.
     
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