Illegal aliens cancel food stamps to avoid deportation; Washington Post horrified

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  1. RP12

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    7 billion people on the planet. Hope you are working overtime to address the issue I mean we need to take care of all them don't we?
     
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    If parents are deported and refuse to take their child(ren) with them, they are unfit to be parents, their parental rights should be terminated fully and permanently, and the children placed in foster care available for adoption.
     
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    Yes, the USA has an obligation to provide food stamps, free medical care, housing, utilities, cell phones, cable TV and a car to every person on earth. All Americans should be required to work 16 hours a day, 7 days a week to provide for this and as punishment for our existence.
     
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    How do you terminate the parental rights of a non-citizen over which you have no jurisdiction?

    You really need to think this through a bit more.
     
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    If not we have no humanity!
     
  6. Professor Peabody

    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Hopefully when Trump cuts off the benefits and make eVerify mandatory, we will save a bunch of money when they go.
     
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    If a child's parents go to jail in any situation what happens?
     
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    No. Just the ones who reside within our borders until a sound policy is enacted that doesn't violate their human rights.

    If the answer is deportation, then let it be that.

    But you cannot deport an American citizen on the basis that their parents were not born here.
     
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    No need, they are minors and must remain with the parents or go into foster care till they're 18
     
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    What border I thought it was an imaginary line ? How about aittlle consistency
     
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    The vast majority of employers that use illegal immigrant labor do not now, nor will they ever, use e-Verify.

    It's a sub-economy that works entirely under the table.

    Even your god Trump can't eliminate that.

    Too often we seek to punish the earner instead of the payer, who is knowingly violating the law. Why is it that no one wants to talk about the American citizens who are providing jobs to the illegals. Instead, you focus solely on the illegal?

    It's like jailing a drug user while refusing to admit that they bought the drugs from someone else.

    It's asinine, and it hasn't, nor will it ever, work.
     
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    They're leaving one way or another. They can go home on their own and apply for citizenship and get in line like they should have in the first place. Or we can show them the door and deport them in which case they can't come back for at least five years. Where we need to bolster immigration laws is in the area of illegal re-entry. First offense: Five years in a Federal Prison with NO parole. No many will risk that.
     
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    A number of different things can, and do, happen.

    The most likely scenario is that the children are placed with a blood relative.

    Often times they do wind up in foster care, which is a nightmare system in, and of, itself.

    But, the foster care system is run by Health & Human Services, and Trump's budget essentially does away with that agency.

    So, your guess is as good as mine as to what we do with American citizens under the age of eighteen.
     
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    Then we simply make the benefit of hiring illegals not worth the penalty. I think a mandatory 30 years in a federal prison without the possibility of parole would dissuade most of them.
     
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    I agree. But, good luck with that. I can already hear the Republican response: "These middle class Americans are the backbone of our economy. They were simply fulfilling a need, nothing more. It's the illegals that should be thrown in jail for having the gall to actually work as an illegal alien.."
     
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    Nations have borders. Humans do not.

    Here's a little exercise in empathy: What would it take for you to travel 1,000 miles on foot, cross a heavily guarded border, and enter a country where half the population views you as the single, most important, problem that's ruining their way of life?

    Imagine that's you. Now, honestly, what would it take for you to embark on such a journey?

    Look deep, my friend. If you are honest, you just might find a bit of empathy deep within that cold, Republican heart of yours.
     
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    That's an excellent idea. They get to do some work in a Federal Prison without a pay. Free food and accommodation for five years. I guess some of them would be happy in prison.

    Both democrats and republicans benefited from the illegal immigration at various stages. Their corporate sponsirs in particular. After long time the insurgent got into the White House. The establishment and their corporate masters aren't happy as Trump really wants to sort out the immigration, illegal immigration in particular.

    By the establishment I mean both democrats, republicans and the good portion of U.S mainstream media. The ruling class that got used to their privileges and hasn't been challenged for 50 years. All their anti-Trump-sim is about keeping their privileges. They couldn't care less about ordinary Americans.
     
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    Leaving out you can do it legally. I swear it's as if it never crossed your mind. Nice flamebait at the end. It's fine I know some can't discuss a topic without it
     
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    Civil wars, starvation, and gang rapings tend to put one on a fast track for leaving the area as quickly as possible.

    There are, probably, 100,000 people or more on "the list" to come here. Most can, and do, wait the requisite amount of time. Many can't.

    So, I ask you again, what would it take for you to leave your home, travel 1,000 miles on foot, to go to a place where half the population doesn't even view you as human, and blames all their problems on you because you crossed an imaginary line without the correct documents?

    Really, what would it take for you to undertake such a $hitty journey?
     
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    Throw them both in jail. We need to try it and see who stands up and defends the illegals.
     
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    Knowing there was a willing and receptive Government that would shower me with benefits I never earned on the other end.
     
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    Yes, as opposed to the national origin of the person entering the US as a citizen of another country. Please explain how the color of a person's skin is an important factor in this issue.
     
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    Don't shoot the messenger, even though I understand it's just your way of deflecting. You would much rather this be about my non-existent racism rather than it be about your ever present xenophobia.
     
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    "Shower me with benefits". Wow! That's an interesting choice of words considering that it's written in to law that illegals are expressly prohibited from receiving them.
     
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    You might just find that it's the Republicans who do....you know, because "no one else will pick strawberries, and Americans need strawberries..."

    Face it, you aren't nearly as tough on immigration as you pretend to be.
     

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