I'm running for office in YOUR state!

Discussion in 'Opinion POLLS' started by Nordic Democrat, Sep 8, 2016.

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Vote for me?

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  3. Undecided

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  1. Nordic Democrat

    Nordic Democrat Well-Known Member

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    I'm running (hypothetically of course) for Senate in your state. I am a relatively unknown candidate, and am running as an Independent. I despise the two party system. If you could only ask me one question to decide whether or not to support me, what would it be?

    I'll give you an answer, then you can take the poll to decide if I get your vote. I think this will be an interesting experiment haha.

    GO!
     
  2. JakeJ

    JakeJ Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, I would not vote a candidate just based on what a candidate says. That is a serious flaw in how so many people vote now.
     
  3. Brewskier

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    Based on your other posts, I already know which side you're on. I voted accordingly.
     
  4. Nordic Democrat

    Nordic Democrat Well-Known Member

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    I don't have a record, so how would you know where I stand?
     
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    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why should I vote for you when that means the main party candidate I most prefer (or least dislike) would be less likely (or more likely) to win?
     
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    Nordic Democrat Well-Known Member

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    Because the two party system has failed us. When people run for office under one of the major parties, their loyalty to the voters and constituents is greatly diminished. Not to mention the massive amount of fundraising from shady sources to be competitive. If every voter dumped the major parties, we would have a better country.
     
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    But what if your livelihood benefits from the success of one particular political party? That's a pretty strong motivation to ignore.
     
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    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You didn't address my question.
     
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    Nordic Democrat Well-Known Member

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    Nobody's livelihood depends on either major party. Republicans and Democrats only help their donors, never their constituents.
     
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    I think I did, if you prefer the establishment politics of either party, you shouldn't vote for me anyway.
     
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    Gaius_Marius Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What is your purpose for running?

    I would never vote for someone I don't know anything about and can't ask more than one question of. Sounds like something Trump would like.
     
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    I limited the question to 1 for the purpose of the thread and to keep it interesting. Ask anything you want!

    My purpose for running would be to be a non corrupted politician who doesn't rely on big money to win, and to make this country better by stopping the outsourcing of labor. My theme would be "Made in America, Jobs for Americans".
     
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    How about the middle aged union goons who want their pension coffers flush with cash, which is more likely with a Democratic win? How about the ones who get a pay raise whenever the minimum wage is increased? What about those living on the dole? There's lots of reasons why someone might be financially incentivized to vote Democrat.
     
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    Even if I did prefer you, Why should I vote for you when that means the main party candidate I most prefer (or least dislike) would be less likely (or more likely) to win?
     
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    I don't like any government that sounds that nationalistic.
    Furthermore I think the current obsession about outsourcing and protectionism is misguided. It has been a major reason for the rise in wealth globally and many many people today have better living standards because of those jobs. We shouldn't be focusing on those jobs in a modern western democracy... We should be creating better and educating our people for them.

    Better luck next time:wink:
     
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    There are people who will financially benefit from either party, but that is a small number of people. People have been voting for these parties for decades, and nobody's lives have improved. We need to try something different.

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    That makes no sense. If you prefer to vote for me, then vote for me. If not, then don't. Ask me about the issues, and if you support what I support, then I see no reason to keep supporting major parties that are accountable to nobody other than wealthy donors.
     
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    I know whom I will vote for when it comes to the senatorial race here in Georgia. I've known that for years.
     
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    Good for you!
     
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    I'm not nationalistic in a fascist sense, though I am running for office in America, so yes I am going to be patriotic. Other countries have better living standards because of "free" trade. Our labor force has had wages slashed, jobs outsourced, and has made Walmart the number one private employer. That's a problem. Of course we need better jobs, but to create those jobs we need everyone in the US to get a much better education than they're receiving now.

    Thanks for the consideration!
     
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    That makes no sense.

    Let's suppose I think you are the most preferable. Of the main party candidate, one is a candidate ("A") that I don't prefer as much as you, but I he's close and I find A to be acceptable.

    The other main party candidate ("B") is a person who I view as being a disaster for the state, who's policies and character would be abhorrent.

    Since you have virtually no chance of winning, if I vote for you, that means I am not voting for candidate A, which means that B has a better chance of winning against A. By voting for you instead of A, I am helping the worst candidate (B) get elected.

    Which is exactly what happened when the greens voted for Nader instead of Gore in Florida in the 2000 election.

    So again, why should I vote for you when that means the main party candidate I most prefer (or least dislike) would be less likely (or more likely) to win?
     
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    Because Candidate A has done very little for you, and the country. The two party system is a fraud to instill power to elites, permanently. The only way to break that cycle is to literally convert support from candidate A, to me. Breaking it down into thirds, all I will need is 33.4% to win. Those are pretty good odds. It's up to me to show you how candidate A has failed you, and the country.
     
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    Because Candidate A has done very little for you, and the country. The two party system is a fraud to instill power to elites, permanently. The only way to break that cycle is to literally convert support from candidate A, to me. Breaking it down into thirds, all I will need is 33.4% to win. Those are pretty good odds. It's up to me to show you how candidate A has failed you, and the country.
     
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    Now you're interposing your personal opinions and views, which I don't agree with.

    You still don't answer my question.

    And even if I did agree with you, it would still make no sense for me to vote for you and essentially help the worst candidate (from my perspective) win. Like when Bush won in 2000 because of the green vote. People who voted for the green candidate in 2000 didn't change the two party system, the just indirectly elected the very worst candidate possible from a green perspective.
     
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    I did answer your question. The only reason it doesn't change is because people like you refuse to vote for anyone else. People refusing to vote third party is the death knell for democracy, and enshrines the two party system. Vote third party, and convince your like minded friends and family to also vote third party. Boycott the two major parties, they do nothing for people.
     
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    That there in red is not provable and propaganda...That alone excludes you from my list. Sorry...
     

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