Imagine- If Hillary Clinton Groped Men

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Surfer Joe, Oct 16, 2016.

  1. Surfer Joe

    Surfer Joe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    As the end approaches, the hysteria surrounding Trump escalates in a blatantly ham-handed way, as has been the case all along.
    Now the drudge report and the Russians and Assange are are pushing the last ditch notion that Russia is girding for nuclear war and only the great orange hope can save the US from nuclear war.
    Drudge is currently parroting the hysterical demand that Clinton pass a drug test before the debate.
    No doubt others here will fall in line polishing that turd.
    What the Trump supporters fail to understand is that it's no longer about politics, or policies, if it ever was, it's about the fact that Trump has revealed himself to the world for what he really is.
    Trump has no class and is too immature and lacks the self-control and good judgement to lead the country. Period.
    Not, but Hillary...or but the Supreme Court...there simply is no more good will explanation for Trump's overall current and historical character and judgement.
    We are about the same age, and I have been aware of this clown's antics for decades. He's always been the caricature of the classless and self-absorbed rich guy with daddy issues, and one of the most laughable, sort of like an early Kardashian.
    But Trump supporters continue to ignore everything he is and does and says while trying desperately to deflect, polish as I call it, from the glaringly obvious reality. I am in the UK working, and the man is a joke as well as an embarrassment in most of the rest of the world.
    So, as an exercise in intellectual and moral courage, imagine how you would have reacted if the shoe were on the other foot.
    The article below lists a few instances for you to consider.

    I suspect that people know in their hearts that Trump is too defective, but they are trapped in their ideological girdle and won't admit it.
    I urge those Trump supporters who are still on the bandwagon to secretly vote for human decency rather than angry partisanship.
    Clinton may surprise you.
    As someone who's also been around for decades, I have seen her strengths as well as her Nixonian tendencies, and she is intelligent and capable and persistent and inclusive in character.
    Of course she's part of the establishment, and she has extensive international connections, but she is totally committed to our country and its overall benefit and security. I also worry about her hawklike tendencies, but I trust her caution and character and maturity much much more than I do Trump.
    I think that today's world needs a really competent leader, and Hillary- as is, warts and all, is by far the better man for the job in every way.
    Imagine what Trump will do in the last debate.
    He's painted himself into a corner claiming that the election is rigged at all his rallies and that his opponent should be in jail.
    He doesn't even pretend to talk about policy ideas anymore.
    What's left to debate?
    Maybe he plans to invite Sheriff Joe to arrest her on stage at the debate? You know he's as liable to do that as anything else.
    He lacks all self-control.
    And his followers are already calling for armed insurrection because their will and vote is going to be stolen by some vast left-wing conspiracy.
    It may be a prelude to ducking the last debate, because if he spends 90 minutes trying to fulminate about the rest of the world stealing his rightful election, or tries to come up behind her and put the cuffs on Hillary, it's going to be another painfully embarrassing night.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/16/o...=WhatsNext&contentID=WhatsNext&pgtype=article
     
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    liberalminority Well-Known Member

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    Trump stands up for the little people, he speaks like the little people. clinton does not speak like the common man, she works for the rich who make money in countries that hate America like england.

    we fought for freedom from england because they took freedom away from the peasants of America, and needed patriotic founding fathers who were rich capitalists who cared about we the people to help organize and free us like today's Trump.

    she only cares about money and power for the rich conservatives and liberals.
     
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    There isn't a double standard NY Times. We're judging Hillary on Hillary's merits. And she's winning the polls, isn't she? So what double standard is 'winning' being held to? See, this is what I hate about the media. Instead of promoting the qualities of their candidate, they have to highlight Trump's negatives. Instead of reporting the news and only the news, they have to interject their worthless and equally false views of the world.

    It would bare meaning if I thought their views were valid, but they aren't. Their views are many times false, inflammatory and contributed TO the rise of Donald Trump.

    Donald Trump's very existence is a result of how disgusting they are. And instead of being at least the tiniest bit remorseful and trying to return to a modest media, they double down. They may think they'll survive once Trump falls down. But no, the American Media has been long overdue for a reconstruction. A media that turns opinion pieces into newsheaders is no longer a media worth protecting.
     
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    Peasants?

    Newsflash, the Founding Fathers were not peasants
     
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    the royalty of england just as the political elites today treat rich people not part of establishment as peasants.

    when America defended liberty the good rich people and poor united against them as Trump and his voters are today.
     
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    The Founding Fathers were pissed because the British taxes were impacting their BUSINESSES.

    For instance..the Tea Party happened because the Crown put a tax only on Colonial tea in order to dump excess Indian tea on our market. The rebels dumped THAT tea into Boston harbor.
     
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    From most reports, Hillary is much more likely to grope a woman.
     
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    You realize that what amounted to "peasants" in the American colonies were the indentured servants who did not have the status or the means to to fight for political freedom since they were trying to survive long enough to work off their indenturship. Those who "took" freedom away from these indentured servants were the ones who owned the contract on the life of the indentured serviants. You need to study your history maybe for the first time bmrcause what you will find is that those who fought fir the freedom of the American colonists where the owners of the indentured servants, the merchants , and hold onto your hat - the elites of their day. Washington, Jefferson, Adams, Franklin, Hamilton, Sherman, and other leaders of the revolution were not peasants in any way. In case you have forgotten there were these people, some did not consider them people, who had even less freedom than real " peasants" so let me introduce you to the slaves. From definition a space alien reading you comment would get the false idea that the American Revolution was a slave revolt.

    Trump is an elitist don,t turn your back on him he does not have your best interest or the best interests of our country in mind. He has his own interests, the Trump brand, the Trump empire.

    Trump is the original Kardashian as the OP alluded to.

    Go and study your history so you may better understand your potential future and see who are the tyrants of today.

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    Yup, not the revolt of peasants is it!.
     
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    Lol...Right on cue. Thanks for playing.
     
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    I am long past the point of caring who wins this election. Neither candidate is fit to occupy the outhouse let alone the oval office. These days when I turn on TV it is to watch the baseball playoffs or a movie. This election has turned into a circus, this election is straight off the front page of the National Enquirer next to an article about UFO's, ET abductions and Elvis lives.

    This has become the most idiotic election in our nation's history. The choices give us is straight out of the three stooges. No one could be dumb enough to nominate them, no one. If this is the best and brightest our two major parties have to nominate for president, we are surely in the last days of this nation.
     
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    That is about as solid information that Trump and Giuliani raped a girl when she was 14 as those reports say.
     
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    if the rich founding fathers didn't defend us we would still be under the rule of england, is that what you want?

    we need Donald Trump who is a good rich guy like the founding fathers to defend us from the bad rich guys supporting clinton, because he is loyal to America as the founding fathers were
     
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    so you are making an argument in favor of the british crown, and not America?
     
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    FYI: Crooked Cankles likes the ladies:

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    If everything were reversed, nobody would give a (*)(*)(*)(*) and if you brought any of those things up, it's clearly because you're sexist...

    Yeah there is a double standard in America. Where Moochelle Obama can be SHOCKED at Trump's words while her husband flaunts his dick to flight attendants... and only one of those scenes gets mentioned.

    The MSM is in bed with Clinton. It's been confirmed 100 times over. They are her propaganda machine.
     
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    Look at the picture. You can see that by the look on her face Hillary is thinking ------------------wow would I like to fondle those babies!!!!!!
     
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    For common men you mean stupid men instead I assume and the the idea of the common men becoming the common mob frighten most of the founding fathers. That is with special note after the French revolution of the common man went so bad that they they was cutting people heads off by the thousands.


    In any case none of the founding fathers was common men and they was not all rich business men.

    Suggest you read some of the writings of Hamilton, a fairly poor lawyer who was not born in the colonies , Thomas Paine who never was rich and also not born in the colonies.

    Jefferson was wealth in land and slaves but he was up to his neck in debt and on his death a large amount of his belongings needed to be sold off to settle those debts.

    I love that right wingers seems to know little history.
     
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    I can see why Rudy keeps bending over for Trump. They're birds of a feather.
    [video=youtube;4IrE6FMpai8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IrE6FMpai8[/video]
     
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    Hillary was a lesbian in college. She probably got more p-ssy than Donald ever did.
     
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    Lol...So, another thing that she's better at than Trump, eh?
    Why do you people keep supporting a loser?
     
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    Footnote if Trump had been born in the era of the colonies or even during the first hundred years or so of the US and try to pull off some of the behaviors he is now famous for as a business 'man' he would had ended up in debtor prison not walking away with millions while leaving others men holding holding worthless promises of repayments.
     
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    so when Trump cares about the gays and transgenders its bad, only liberals get to show off to that voter group.
     
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    First, I don't think Hills swings that way.
    Second, one by one, these smears are being debunked. Some are 30 years old. Timing is everything and the timing on these smell to high heaven. It is Hillary, her MSM shills and the minions on here doing the dirty work. Can't they play fair to win? I guess not. Anyway, the stories of Kristin Anderson, Mindy McGillivray, Summer Zervos whose lawyer Gloria Allred was a Clinton delegate, Natasha Stoynoff and Jessica Leeds have been debunked. I am sure any others will be too.
    Have any of misogynist Bill's been proven to be lies? Hillary helped her pervert husband by going after the women who accused him! This, after she said that every woman has a right to be heard if they have been attacked.
    The Clinton are corrupt to the core. I suspect that all of you know that Hills is too defective, but they are trapped in their ideologicals girdle to admit it. Anyone who thinks she is honest and capable has a screw loose too. She has NO policies. What she did as SOS made the world a much more dangerous place to be. She failed trying to implement a health plan as First Lady and her stint as senator was less than stellar except that she voted for war. The woman is in poor health and is a loon. She cares not what she can do for her country, only what her country can do for her and that's making her rich and powerful and she needs deadheads to make that come true. Then she will abandon them...
     
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    As a candidate for President Trump with one very short comment concerning no longer honoring our NATO treaty in some cases had made war far more likely to break out. With special note of the areas around the Russian borders.

    See the history of the Korean conflict and a similar stupid statement that help trigger it.

    To sum up Hillary on her death bed would be a far better choice then Trump and in case you happen to know about as little history as Trump both Roosevelt and Kennedy was hardly the pictures of health and both was fine presidents.
     

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