Impeachment Is a Form of Hope

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  1. struth

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    That may or may not be true. In any event it misses the point. Winning the election is a means to an end. The end being to make the country stronger. Increasing the debt by hundreds of billions, breaking alliances, causing internal division, not addressing problems like healthcare and climate change.....those things make us weaker.
     
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    Hence the desperate anti-democratic impeachment effort.
     
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    The nomination process is rigged. Sanders Schultz will never be nominated, and neither has the stones to defy the DP bosses and run independently.
     
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    What impeachment effort?
     
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    That Trump won was a fluke, as you well know, PP. His 4 leaf clover was eaten by the rabbit.
     
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    Pelosi isn't protecting Trump ... she's protecting her precious gavel. Nancy ain't a genius, but she remembers the fallout after the last doomed from the onset impeachment. Pelosi knows what the risks are.
     
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    Faux: I will continue to claim the hen house was raided absent credible evidence.
     
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    Eh, you do know that was a metaphor and not a reference to Fox News, right?

    And as for those claiming the hen house was raided absent credible evidence, that would be the Democrats in Congress. Meanwhile, the same Democrats look at credible evidence of wrongdoing by Democrats and see nothing.
     
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    Ooops. You forgot what is in the Mueller report.
     
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    There's nothing in the Mueller report, or he would have charged the president himself.
     
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    Returning to the issue of impeachment, I am fully aware of what happened today, what Trump did, what Trump said. Trump is begging to be impeached, which is exactly my point.

    The worst mistake the Democrats could make is to impeach Trump!

    In the first place, heading into the 2020 Presidential election, Democrats should not do exactly what their main rival wants them to do.

    In the second place, what exactly would be accomplished by impeachment? Some naive congressmen and women think impeachment is an end onto itself. It is not. Impeachment is merely an indictment. The trial takes place in the Trump Republican held Senate where conviction will only happen when pigs can fly. Trump would become a martyr, a victim of Democratic overreach. Why do you think Trump wants to be impeached?

    In the third place, these immature lawmakers who think Trump should be impeached should look back on 1998 and the failed impeachment of Bill Clinton which was led by the Republicans. After Clinton was vindicated he became more popular. The pending election was a disaster for the GOP. The Speaker, Newt Gingrich, first lost his post. Months later, he was booted out of the House. That is what impeachment accomplished for the Republicans, and Pelosi and others with more experience remember it well.

    In the fourth place, a recent poll showed that only 37% want Trump impeached, probably mostly Republicans. It is Trump's only chance. 60% of Americans oppose impeachment. When asked should Trump be reelected, 60% said no, 37% said yes. Twice in the last two days, two different federal courts have ruled against Trump and in favor of the House Democrats.

    What does this mean? It means the Democrats are already winning. Taking into consideration 1998, why risk throwing the election in favor of Trump?

    OLC, Tlaib, Omar and others calling for impeachment say that it is a Constitutional duty for the House to impeach Trump. Consider this. The worst possible threat to our Constitution is another four years of the Trump Presidency.

    This was illustrated in living color today.
     

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