Impeachment

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  1. CourtJester

    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    Well he did violate the Iran accord which has caused a rather large problem but yes he at least so far hasn’t started any wars.
     
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    Still pushing it? Trump was trying to get something on a political rival. He probably could have gotten away with levering up on Zelensky if he had gone through channels.
     
  3. Fred C Dobbs

    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What 'personal gain' are you referring to?
     
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    Nice try.
     
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    Playing dumb?
     
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    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Biden is no 'political rival' He is a private citizen. Biden's 'political rivals' are Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders, et al.
     
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    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If you don't know, as seems to be the case, just say so.
     
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    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Anther one of your substance free posts. You are the former schoolteacher, right?
     
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    Still playing dumb?
     
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    That doesn’t prove that the Impeachment process is designed to stop Trump’s running for President. In fact almost everyone at this point believes that the Senate will not remove him from office no matter how solid the evidence. And Republicans used to welcome the impeachment process claiming it would only strengthen Trump’s support among his base.
     
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    playing?
     
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    Uh huh. :yawn: :yawn: :yawn:
     
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    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    your claim that not asking the Ukraine to investigate Biden would be a dereliction of Trump’s sworn responsibilities. Did you forget your post #693 already?
     
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    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, it's not designed to prevent him from running, it's designed to destroy his reputation.

    If a trial goes to the Senate the Dems will be destroyed, and they know that. It's Leftist theater and it's seriously hurting the country. The Russians, or Chinese, couldn't have done any better.
     
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    The prosecutor they wanted dismissed was a friend of a Ukrainian oligarch, Dimitry Firtash. Firtash, thanks to his friend pro-Russian President Yanukovych, was getting a percentage of the value of all Russian natural gas passing through Ukraine to Western Europe. Western Europeans didn't like paying his fees, which were probably subdivided to himself and Ukrainian/Russian kick-backs. The IMF withheld a $1.7 billion loan to Ukraine, citing corruption, and pending the "clean-up" of the corruption. The "evidence" Rudy has regarding Biden is primarily from the pro-Russian people of Ukraine.
    The desposition, Shokin (the dismissed prosecutor) made wherein he accused Biden and his son of corruption, was made to an Austrian Court. Firtash is under arrest in Austria and the U.S. has requested he be extradited to face charges of the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act, involving his activities in the bidding process (bribery) for Indian titanium to Boeing Aircraft (headquartered now in Chicago). Shokin's deposition was in support of his friend Firtash's fight against extradition. He's currently out on a $120 million bail...the largest in Austrian history.
     
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    I was incorrectly assuming that you knew that the President took an oath of office to uphold the law. Sorry for the confusion.
     
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    What reputation. He is already exposed as a liar, a buffoon, a sexual predator, a poor manager, a business failure, and of course a totally incompetent President.

    And how can it hurt His chances for re-election if you believe that going to trial in the Senate will destroy the Democrats. If you believe that you should welcome Trump being impeached. .
     
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    So there is no evidence then that any EU countries wanted him gone, as the Biden apologists are claiming, and you only have a 'probably'.

    Wouldn't it make sense then to work with the new Ukrainian government to uproot and expose any corruption that you claimed was occuring?
     
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    Nice try. No law requires the President to request a foreign country to investigate a Presidential candidate’s son for political or any other purposes.
     
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    You're heartfelt feelings won't count for much with the American electorate. Many feel that he is improving the country and winnowing the Deep State, something past Presidents have promised but failed to do.
     
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    Nor is there a law preventing him if he feels there is wrongdoing. There was a two year investigation on the President based on much less evidence than that against Joe and Hunter Biden.
     
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    nice try. First you say there is a law requiring him to do something and when that is shown to be nonsense you claim there is no law preventing him from doing something.
     
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    a minority, but yes there are fools in the US who are willing to believe anything despite the obvious lack of evidence.
     
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    Yes, I've seen that since Trump became the Republican candidate for President.
     
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    Missed the 'r' on nor but since corrected.
     
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