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  1. Xenamnes

    Xenamnes Banned

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    Name which constitutional rights require a permit from government to make their exercise legal.
     
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    An Taibhse Well-Known Member

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    You are confusing what such a permit would be for. You don’t need a permit to speak, but do to use the White House lawn for anything because it is a secure area. Outside the front of the White House grounds unpermitted protests occure frequently and legally as long public ROW and pedestrian traffic is not blocked. I have never seen a permit for speech... show one. I have heard this arguement before as an example of permitting the excersize of a right, and it is a false narrative. Permits are not needed for free speech, but are to block, barricade, erect stages, request security services etc. for an event. Want to protest something, anything, you can do so without a speech permit.
     
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  3. Xenamnes

    Xenamnes Banned

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    It does when those who are authorized to issue permits are given the authority to deny applications at their discretion, even when the applicant has no disqualifying record.
     
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    Nope sorry
     
  5. Vegas giants

    Vegas giants Banned

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    permits are already required to bear arms
     
  6. An Taibhse

    An Taibhse Well-Known Member

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    And, what has that to do with my response to Ronstar?
     
  7. TOG 6

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    Thanks for the detailed info!
    The gun is very new - will continue to try the TC and see if it breaks in.
     
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    Permits are already required for a right
     
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    Your false unsupported opinion.
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    its an accurate description of people who pretend to be gun owners but buy into the stupid restrictions their masters impose on them. You have no room to complain given your comments about gun owners
     
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    Do you need permission from New York to own a gun?
     
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    Personally, I dislike truncated cones ammo in favor of hollow point ball ammo by Federal one of my favorite, Remington used to have good 10mm ammo.

    However, an Aftermarket barrel by BARSTO might be best, better quality than OEM...
    As well as better quality magazines.

    Oops, sorry, forgot it was R.I.A. another reason I like to stick to single stack in a 1911 so I can use standard 1911 magazines available anywhere.....
     
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    I prefer KART barrels on my top 1911 rigs. My Frederick Craig gun I used 25 years ago or so in limited had Kart Barrels. I have a wayne Novak built highpower with a Barsto barrel.
    Nowlin's aren't bad either
     
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    Yes, you need to Bow before the Masters at 1 Police Plaza, Command Address.
    Learn to beg and grovel, take off your hat, bow and scrape.
     
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    Never used Kart barrels....
    Nowlins, yes...
    I want to start building guns again.
     
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    my gun permit did not involve 1 Police Plaza at all.

    last time I was there was to receive my shield, back in 2003.
     
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    From the FBI?
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    no, from the NYPD when I was a Special Patrolman.

    shield looked like this but said "Special Patrolman"

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    The only handgun permits valid in the 5 Boroughs, Brooklyn, Queens, Staten Island, Bronx, are issued by;
    The pistol license division:
    Police Department - City of New York
    1 Police Plaza
    Command Address

    Special Patrolmen, a position appointed by the Police Commissioner, for various duties, Firearms are regulated by N.Y.P.D. Administration, same as any Specially appointed sworn Peace Officer with firearms authorizations.
     
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    It's a fact
     
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    NYS Peace Officer/ NYPD Special Patrolman

    Hunts Point Department of Public Safety, Hunts Point Produce Terminal
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    Bronx, NY
    November 2014 to Present

    Responsibilities
    • Maintain order and safety of persons and property within and around the industrial park, its facilities, admin buildings, warehouses, storefronts, restaurants, lots and railways
    • Enforce NYS Penal Law, NYS Vehicle and Traffic Law, NYS/ NYC Environmental Protection Laws (Engine Idling Law), and NYC Administrative Code through investigations, issuing Summonses, making warrantless arrests, and use of physical force when necessary.
    • Enforce market rules and regulations, NYC Fire Codes, conduct truck and vehicle checkpoint inspections
    • Foot and mobile RMP patrol: responding to calls of disputes, crimes, medical aided cases and any suspicious activity
    • Serve as department Central Dispatch: Accepting emergency calls, communication with 911, EMS, FDNY, NYPD, Booking and warrant checks; review and monitoring CCTV
    • Regular Traffic Control details, Enforce NYC Parking rules and regulations

    Skills Used
    Community policing, Diplomacy, conflict resolution
     
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    Prove such to be the case. Prove that arbitrary denials do not occur, and that even if they did, they would not interfere with the legal exercise of the second amendment.
     
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    How about I dont.
     
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    Then such would be par for the course and demonstrate a lack of validity to the position being presented by yourself.
     
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    Thanks for your opinion
     

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