Inaugural Speech analysis

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  1. Mike12

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    wrong..

    The Unites States is the wealthiest Country on earth = FACT. Who owns the wealth is a completely separate matter... I'm talking about the Country as a whole. The amount of wealth here is unparalleled anywhere else in the world.

    The United States is the strongest and most powerful nation on Earth - FACT.

    The United States is GREAT. Would you prefer to live in China? Russia? EUROPE? then get the f out of this Country, renounce your citizenship and stay out. Many Americans who whine and b*tch and burn flags will not leave the COUNTRY because they know it's a great Country. Now is it perfect? FAR FROM IT. A democracy is never perfect, there will always be crime, always be inequality in any democracy... We do have problems we need to address and i think Trump has the energy to address some of the problems but to say this Country is not great is just DUMB... quite frankly.

    The United States IS SAFE. ISIS and Al queda have inflicted more damage in Europe, Turkey, israel and other areas than they have in US since 09/11. It's amazing that so many want to hurt us yet we have had no terrorist organization planned attacks on us. These random terrorist attacks perpetrated by losers who are inspired by ISIS? These are not members of ISIS or Al queda, just loners trying to make a name for themselves. This is very different than the mass bombings we have seen in Turkey (hundreds and hundreds killed) and the mass murders in Europe, these were actual members of ISIS, not just random folks inspired by ISIS. We are safe, very safe...

    CRIME AND DRUGS? We do have a problem in inner cities and we do have a problem with drugs but this doesn't mean America isn't great, safe and wealthy. There are problem spots in every Country (very bad neighborhoods in France, Germany, china, russia and boy in 3rd world countries), US is no different. Chicago is a mess and i blame liberals for it but crime in NY, LA and many other cities has come down a lot so we have to put this in perspective. DRUGS? yes, it's a problem and will always be a problem as long as it's illegal...
     
  2. Hard-Driver

    Hard-Driver Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A negative speech full of BS and delivered with an idea that his ego is larger than the entire country. The man obviously thinks America is a terrible place. The carnage is not ending, it is about to start.
     
  3. Belch

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    To a communist, this might make sense. However, to a capitalist, the country is 20 trillion in debt, and the money people have is not the country's money.


    What's with all of these "FACT!" remarks? They don't help your argument any.

    Is it really great? How do you define national greatness? Just saying stuff means nothing.


    Actually, it does mean that it isn't safe. Great is... again, I don't know what metric you are using to come that conclusion. "Wealthy"? Again, 20 tril ain't wealth. It's what I call "debt".

    and no, not all countries have problem spots. Sorry, but American inner-cities are not safe, not great, and definitely not wealthy.
     
  4. Space_Time

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    Here's more:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-inaugural-speech_us_588273b3e4b096b4a231a7ad
    Trump’s Inaugural Speech Sounded More Like A Takeover
    Friday was a triumphant day for the new president — but you wouldn’t know it from his angry, conspiratorial address.
    01/20/2017 05:26 pm ET
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    Howard Fineman
    Global Editorial Director, The Huffington Post

    JOHN MOORE VIA GETTY IMAGES
    A policeman stands guard during the televised inauguration of Donald Trump as the 45th president of the United States, Jan. 20, 2017, in New York City.
    WASHINGTON ― Forgive me, but I love presidential inaugurations.

    Covering politics and adoring America ― especially our Constitution ― I relish the pageantry of the law-based transition of power, even if I know that we are still not a perfect union.

    I have covered many inaugurations, and they’ve shared certain reassuring characteristics. The speech allows each new president to start things off on a peaceable note, however urgent the tasks at hand. It’s a chance to pay homage to the constitutional process, to acknowledge those who may not have supported the incoming president during the campaign, to offer soothing words about the durability of freedom.

    And for the better part of a century, the inaugural speech has allowed new presidents to reaffirm our faith in an active global alliance of free nations for the spread of humanistic values.

    Well, President Donald J. Trump’s speech offered almost none of that.

    No one like him has ever been elected, so in one sense, this departure from the norm wasn’t surprising.

    At the same time, it was a shocking thing to hear and see and feel from a couple hundred feet below the podium.

    First, the urgency and the anger. Ronald Reagan came to town in 1981 with a good bit of the same attitude. But it wasn’t nearly as pure or simplistic as what Trump expressed in his jeremiad Friday.

    When Reagan was inaugurated, he made sure to stress that he wasn’t against government per se, or even against Washington, D.C. Rather, he said, he was against wastefulness.

    Trump, on the other hand, made it personal, even if he didn’t mention any names. And he made ominous allusions that called to mind old European tropes.

    “For too long,” he said, “a small group in our nation’s capital has reaped the rewards of government while the people have borne the cost.”

    Who is this “small group?” Does he mean Congress? The wider federal bureaucracy? The K Street lobby corps? The press?

    Maybe he was talking about the whole churning machine of Washington itself. But something that vast wouldn’t seem to fit the devil-in-hiding liturgy of Trump’s more conspiratorial, xenophobic supporters, led by White House counselor Steve Bannon.

    Trump’s vehement tone was all the more striking given the relatively small turnout for the event on the Mall ― which was nowhere near as crowded as it had been for some past inaugurations ― and the genial, unthreatening mood of many of his supporters in seats beneath the Capitol’s West Front.

    Tony Ledbetter, for example, was a Trump elector in Florida, but he’s also a county chair with roots in the Reagan campaign of 1980. A practiced politician, he begged off comparing Trump to his original hero, saying his main hope for the new president is simply that he “create jobs.”

    Presidents tend not to talk about themselves very much in their inaugural speeches. But Trump, as usual, departed from tradition, and did so in the dramatic, passionate tones of a revolutionary leader.

    “I will fight for you with every breath in my body,” he declared, “and I will never let you down.”

    At times, the anti-Washington populism of Trump’s speech ― he indicted much of the very system that had just installed him ― made his predecessors, even Reagan, seem like go-along, get-along types.

    “The forgotten men and women of our country will be forgotten no longer,” he said.

    There was the pitchman’s urgency to it all, with little stately, secular sermonizing. “The time for empty talk is over,” he said. “Now arrives the hour of action.”

    The language throughout was nakedly combative, even bloody. Of drugs and violence, he vowed, “This American carnage stops right here and it stops right now.”

    The wealth of the middle class has been “ripped from their homes,” he said. Americans will be able to watch their country “eradicate from the face of the earth” every shred of “radical Islamic terrorism.” All of us, he said, citing an old military slogan, “bleed the same red blood of patriots.”

    In fact, rather than simply nodding to the idea of patriotism and love of country, Trump made it the central feature of his vision.

    “At the bedrock of our politics,” he said, “will be a total allegiance to the United States of America, and through our loyalty to our country, we will rediscover our loyalty to each other.”

    And to underscore the centrality of patriotism, he said that he was “issuing a new decree” in the name of the “people assembled here today.”

    “From this day forward, it’s going to be only America first,” he said. “America first.”

    The cries of protests wafting up to the West Front added to the sense that a hostile takeover was underway.

    As inherently American as presidential inaugurations are, no modern president has ever made patriotism per se the central feature of his message.

    There are two reasons for that. One is that the United States has, since World War II, been part of a global alliance of nations standing for values that are American but that transcend any one nation.

    The other reason is that the president, in the oath of office, doesn’t declare allegiance to the United States, its people or its borders. Rather, the oath is a vow to “preserve, protect and defend the Constitution.”

    The Constitution, not the president, is the boss in America, and it cannot be fired.

    But unless I missed something in his abattoir of an address, Trump did not mention on Friday who the real boss is.
     
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    If it wasn't in a mess then Trump would have to pretend it was so he could offer the solution.
     
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    Wealthy, depending on certain standards. Even Obama has acknowledged that while Wall Street rakes corporate profits, the average wage for the American worker barely nudged a cent. Now, for many they have blamed regulations for that. I think that's a part of it, but I also think corporate whoring also has a part to do with it.

    Which is why I agree with Elizabeth Warren on sharing corporate shares(profit shares) with WORKERS. They did, after all work to build that enterprise. Why not have workers have a piece of the pie of their own success?
     
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    Just as my effort to help educate here is the definition of elite:

    Elite | Elite Definition by Merriam-Webster
    Merriam-Webster › dictionary › elite
    : the people who have the most wealth and status in a society : the most successful or powerful group of people. : a person who is a member of an elite : a successful and powerful person.

    You will note that it doesn't mean a member of the government.
     
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    You will notice one of his first acts was to roll back a reduction in mortgage costs making buying a first home more expensive. First Trump gift to the banks while screwing the average American. The symbolism is hilarious.
     
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    The US as a whole is the wealthiest and most powerful nation in the world. The issue is the radically unequal distribution of the benefits across the population. Nothing in Trump's plans will change the inequal distribution of benefits, and in fact his tax cut plans will only make the situation worse.

    The sham will be putting more power in the hands of the unaccountable state governments instead of the federal government.
     
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    As I promised, I turned off the TV as soon as the Chief Justice said 'Congratulations Mr. President'. I did not watch the speech and don't ever intend to watch ANY of Drumpf's speeches.
     
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    Ya mean the way the right talked about Obama huh?
     
  12. Frank

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    My guess history will rate the speech as THE worst ever given.

    It wasn't actually an Inaugural Speech...it was a reworked campaign speech...pretending to put the people's interest first.

    Anyone who say anything presidential about that speech is kidding him/herself.
     
  13. Pred

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    Waaah they're elite and rich or waaaaah they have no experience. Guess what, only qualified people are elite in what they do. What would libs say if he handed over the military to a non elite private? Or if he handed over SOS to a small business owner or was nominated for POTUS with only a history of community organizing and social agitation on his resume😜


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    Thats not the elites he and we are speaking of. Its the political elites of which he has picked 0

    Maybe you could use some education yourself
     
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    The gutsiest speech ever. He just called out the corrupt political elites, both Democrats and Republicans, the deep state, rogue intelligence services etc...He just told them that he is going to take them on. Wow. I wouldn't rule out an assassination attempt at some stage.
     
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    Trump may not be the most eloquent speaker, but I would rather have a President who writes his speeches from the heart, as opposed to hiring the best speech writers in the business to do it for him. Obama was an eloquent speaker, and that's how he persuaded millions to vote for him. Trump is rough around the edges to say the least, but I would rather have a President who doesn't have the best speeches and gets the job done, than a President who speaks eloquently to the masses, but doesn't accomplish much.
     
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    What is with these stupid Republicans and their " waahs". Do they need their diapers changed?
     
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    Well if you can't actually use the language correctly then perhaps you are the fool. So now you know the difference between elites and politically elites. You don't have to thank me, edicating the uneducated is my form of public service.
     
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    Uuum, thats all the snowflakes, kiddo. Whining and complaining about what you have no control over is indeed...Waaaaaaaaah!
     
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    YUS! obama wasted his time courting people who would not vote for him. He did figure it out pretty quick though.
     
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    Well since it would appear that the Trump supporters are primarily composed of societies losers then I guess they must be the snowflakes.
     
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    The American public, losers. Liberal logic 101.
     

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