Inequalities in the interracial dating sphere

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  1. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Has anyone noticed you see a lot more Black men with White women than the other way around (i.e. black women with white men) ?
    Or that there are a lot more Asian women in relationships with White men than the other way around?

    (for any of you Brits who may be reading here, by Asian I'm specifically talking about Chinese, Japanese, Thailand, etc)

    What's the inevitable end result of all this going to be?

    Some people say race doesn't make any difference at all, but there are clearly statistical trends going on here that are unbalanced.

    I was just at the park, kind of rainy, not many people around, and I saw two couples walk past each other. Not making this up, exactly 10 minutes ago. As I'm sure you can guess one of them was a black man - white woman (female was pushing a baby in a stroller too), and the other was white man - asian woman (maybe Philipino?).

    What is it that's making Black men more sexually desirable than Black women in the interracial dating game? What is it making Asian women seem more sexually attractive than Asian males?

    I know there's a theory out there that some ethnicities may have more "masculine" or "feminine" character traits, having to do with hormone levels.

    Are black women and asian men getting thrown off to the sidelines?
    I know there's a lot of jealousy here; my mom dated a Black man for a time and she said when she went out in public with him she saw Black women give her the evil eye on more than a few occasions.
     
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    Easy. Asian men are rarely attractive to white women because they're regarded as small, 'feminine' and weak. They are simply nowhere near masculine enough. Black men are attractive to white women for the inverse reason ... they are perceived as masculine, bold, athletic etc, and they're almost always taller than the average white woman. And of course, there's the old adage about appendages ... one group is famous for their lack, the other for their bounty.

    I can't speak to the white male interest in Asian women. I don't know a single male (white or otherwise) who finds Asian women attractive. They seem to regard them as either; sexless, materialistic, or spoilt (or all three). IOW, high maintenance without the 'payoff'. I suspect that many white men who pair up with Asian women are either a) prim nerds, or b) unpleasant and unattractive old men who can't attract a mate the usual way. Meantime, don't know why (American) white men don't date black women. Most white men I know find black girls attractive, and I know several couples with this mix. Maybe it's just that black American girls aren't attracted to white men for the same reason white girls aren't attracted to Asian men?
     
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    There is a lot of social pressure in the American Black community to not date "out" for women anyway. There is no cultural restriction on Black men dating out of the community, but Black women are under enormous cultural pressure to stay within the community.

    Or at least that's what they say here.
     
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    Seriously? That's horrifying, if true (caveat .. didn't read the link ... soz!). Bloody sexist bustards.
     
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    White women who date black men are less likely to find themselves attractive compared to other white women. I suspect these black men are picking the low hanging fruit, and it is very unlikely for black men to date attractive white females. Black females are generally viewed as unattractive by all races.
     
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    Down here we see a lot more Choctaw women marrying white men than Choctaw men marrying white women. I can't tell you why, it's just the way it goes. I'm content to see either case, and don't want to see taxpayer money go to a goofy government funded study of this. I'm also content to see black/white marriages, Vietnamese/black marriages, and Vietnamese/white marriages of either case. Go to the mall and you most likely will see all of these combinations.

    imo it's just a lot of fish in the sea to choose from, and people making up their own minds.
     
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    It's the opposite, where I live. Black people here are regarded as the ultimate prize, so only the cream of the crop (of white people) has access.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Black men or including black women? In somewhere like New York City or Seattle I could see how a half-brown woman would be regarded as exotic.
     
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    Sounds like the capitalistic system. Of course we know that in any system there will be inequalities.
    Sometimes increasing choice can magnify these inequalities (paradoxically).

    If you go online you can find numerous articles about black men having too many options, and many ebony sisters forced into man-sharing.

    http://www.economist.com/node/21532296

    writes one black man:
    http://www.economist.com/node/21532296/comments

    It might go both ways.
    Why would a black woman want a lame ass wimpy white guy?
    And is the average white guy going to dream of settling down with a boisterous outspoken Nubian Princess who may have a little extra meat around her bones?
     
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    Where do you live where blacks are desirable?

    Okcupid dating data released years back showed blacks were universally seen as undesirable by most races.
     
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    I think it's due to how unattractive blacks are generally regarded.

    https://theblog.okcupid.com/race-and-attraction-2009-2014-107dcbb4f060
     
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    I was stationed in Japan back in the 50's and saw plenty of evidence how American men (white or black) could be strongly attracted to Japanese women. They behaved (at least back then) as if they had been put on earth only to please you. I'm sure if I went back I would find that 'westernization' has taken it's toll.
     
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    Look at the sex tourism. American and European men head to countries like Thailand.
    Women (when they do go on sex tourism, which is less common) head to Jamaica, the Dominican Republic, Senegal...
     
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    My wife is Filipino. She said that she just didn't like Filipino-American men. They tend to be mama's boys and wanna-be gangbangers. My wife has few of the stereotypical Asian "qualities" that allegedly attract white men. She's strong and independent, which is also my preference.
     
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    I've been married to a white woman 40 years, but I find black women desirable, along with Choctaw women, Filipino women, Korean women, Creole women, Hispanic women, Vietnamese women, and Hindu women to be desirable. Women are fantastic.
     
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    Black/brown whatever .. both male and female. They're seen as something of a prize, here. They have their pick of white partners, IOW.
     
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    Tells you much. White desperado (women) want size and masculinity. White desperado (males) want small and feminine.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So you're saying feminism may be having something to do with all of this... interesting.
     
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    You see more black guys with white girls than the other way around because white guys are chasing after hot Asian chicks or blondes. Its not exactly rocket science. Lets face it there is also cultural variables as well. I went to uni in Milwaukee and the only attractive black chicks were the ones from either another state or another country. The local ones were all ghetto.
     
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    The trend I see has a bit to do with women vs. men. Outside the Kardashian syndrome white women who end up with black men seem to be the less attractive females to white men and thus options are not available. Rarely do I note an attractive white girl with a black man in real life...usually overweight or homely.
     
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    In the Black culture (and also Hispanic culture, to a lesser extent) big booty and voluptuous hips are seen as an attractive female feature. That's why white women who are a bit overweight are seen as passable in the sight of many Black guys. You even have some African American women getting butt implants, analogous to the same way many white women get breast implants.

    I don't want to say this is all cultural, there are probably a few genetic factors going on.
     
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    Most would disagree that blacks are attractive, obviously. I suspect they are viewed as looking very primitive. For instance, their sweat glands are larger making them smell more than whites, and their upper and lower jaw doesn't line up as it does for Europeans. Additionally, they have flat noses compared to pointed noses of Europeans.
     
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    To each their own, that is the way of freedom. I find black women desirable and think one would have given me good sons. But I'm too old now -- to take a 2nd wife.
     
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    Saying this is freedom is like saying it's freedom for workers in 'right to work' states.

    More freedom is resulting in less choice for some gender-race groups.

    I could draw another analogy to minimum wage laws. (demonstrating how individual freedom can paradoxically result in less choice for the collective group)
     
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    I have found that black people in general have more masculine features and this is a benefit to black men but a disadvantage for black women. Asian people have more feminine features which is a benefit to Asian women but a problem for Asian men. While very few people believe in racism we do allow race to impact how we treat people.
     
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