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  1. dagosa

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    huh ? There is no gearing change with EVs !!!!!
    Please, know your physics. We use electric motors when ever we can as drive motors, in nuke subs to surface vessels etc. the bigger the load, other then flight, the more we use EVs,

    EVs are superior for one big reason among others.... You eliminate the need for a transmission. The power band is continuous from 0 to max. An ICE is narrow, that’s why they are so inefficient. A 50 hp electric motor delivers more functional torque over a wider band then an IC engine twice it’s rated horse and three to five times it’s size..

    Geesus, you want to breath fumes just because....I have no idea why you’re not promoting electrification.

    My well pump has worked for 25 years under water from 300 feet down. You’d rather have a gas powered pump ? I don’t get you guys. What are you smoking ?
     
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    You can bet all you want....you’d be wrong. The fking transmission needed in an ice tow vehicle sucks up the power in friction which generates heat.. Where have you been ? Did you ever notice, I have a trans cooler on my ice truck just for towing.....EVs eliminate the need for a trans.
     
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    Because I’m fking smarter then the average republucan. We went to the electric drive motors in trains, TO ELIMINATE POWER ROBBING TRANSMISSIONS.
     
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    Oh, you’d rather give deductions to the business and not the customer....figured.
     
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    Giving subsidies to the buyer is a better free market strategy. You don’t like the free market ?
     
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    All Enicles are designed to tow. You think they don’t pull weight ? Of course they do. The limitation is in the battery size not the motor. which has to do with energy density. There is more energy in a tank of diesel then in a gazillion batteries. It has nothing to do with the electric motor which is a superior drive motor then anything we have now for land transportation.
     
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    Let’s how that does a fast death. Republicans luv pollution
    . Why is that ?
     
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    Excellent plan. That means the GOP won’t go for it. They just go for sht to help the rich.Heaven forbid we do anything for the middle class and poor working class.
     
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    Right, and a lack of gearing, which I'm sure will be innovated more commonly in EVs. Again, I'm not against EVs, if they can be produced at a reasonable price without everyone else paying 10% of the price of the few buyers' cars.
     
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    You don't understand the climate crisis? Have you been living under a rock or just reading too much Epoch Times?
     
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    There's not a climate "crisis". The Earth is slowly, gradually warming, for now.

    But there's no crisis. Obama has what, two beach homes? He's not concerned enough about it to do the things he wants everyone else to do, like most liberal climate alarmists.
     
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    Another person who is either badly misinformed by a steady diet of fake news or living in denial.

    The climate crisis is real and should not be a political issue. Basic reality of this sort should not be a political issue.
     
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    I'm not misinformed at all. There's no crisis. None. The rich liberals don't act like there is a crisis until they're pitching taxing the ever-loving begeebus out of everyone in some cap and trade scam, which, by the way, won't do squat to "save the planet".

    None of Al Gore's dire predictions have come true. The IPCC chronically overpredicts warming. And politicians have indeed politicized it to make themselves rich.
     
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    You keep talking about gearing for an EV. Seriously, did you see the video of the a small Teslar 3 towing a 27 foot travel trailer and it has only one forward gear.

    EVs cost more because the battery technology is expensive for now and dealers make more in their maintenance departments then in sales. E Vs regular maintenance is check wipers and add air to tires......and the occasional owner serviceable air and cooling filters. That’s it. So car makers need to make a bigger profit at the sale.
     
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    Al Gore is not a scientist, so his dire predictions are of little concern to anyone. But there is no denying the recorded rapid warming of the world, rapid melting of polar ice, changes in atmospheric and oceanic temperature and CO2 content, and the rapid and significant changes in weather patterns around the world. We've been experiencing it right here in the US with increasingly extreme temperatures and storms.

    But you prefer to live in a la-la land created for you by the fossil fuel industry and those who benefit from it financially.
     
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    Don’t forget there. Republicans and science don’t mix.
     
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    I agree that Al Gore is a joke. But, people on the left bought his book, believed his nonsense, so no, at his peak, he was a concern to millions of people who believed his nonsense.

    Rapid is relative. In 100 years, the oceans might rise 6".

    Lala land. Cute. I simply observe that the IPCC predictions have chronically overstated warming predictions. I note that the politicians on the left hype them even more, and NY is not 6 feet underwater, lol. The polar ice caps are not gone like they were supposed to be, etc.

    The reality is the climate is incredibly complicated to model, and is impacted quite a bit by the sun, lol. And so far, scientists have a hard time of making reliably accurate predictions using their existing models. Politicians have then hyped it into a fake crisis in order implement monetary schemes to create fictitious assets for their buddies to get rich on. I can observe that the self-important left wing climate crisis grifters don't live like they want everyone else to live, lol. We can observe Mayor Pete pretending to ride his bicycle to work and getting busted, lol.

    Those are verifiable observations. IOW - facts.
     
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    57 supposed genders says Democrats and science don't mix.
     
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    What I'm saying is that with gearing, the EVs would be even more capable. That's all. And we never did get an answer on how much that reduced the range.
     
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    Here we go with "the left" again. That means as little to me as Al Gore's climate predictions, since you're not talking about anyone in particular, but launching a broadside against some loosely defined legion of straw men.

    The sun is not at issue. It is quite stable as far as stars go and is not doing anything at present to account for recent climate changes. You can't just point at the sun and claim that it plays a role, and say this somehow negates the observations and models based on actual data.

    You're accusing politicians of creating a crisis, but given that the scientists are raising the alarm here, I don't think that stands to reason either. You accuse the politicians who raise the issue of having selfish financial motives for doing so, but that's speculation on your part. Besides, there are easier and safer ways to grift and get rich. Just ask Trump and his pals.

    You choose to focus on this nonsense and comfort yourself with these false objections to the scientific consensus, but why? It just seems to be one more way you can be opposed to those darned liberals, and that matters more to you than any fact.
     
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    The left is the party of climate alarmism. How is that even debatable, lol? Obama, John Kerry, Nancy Pelosi, Joe Biden - ask a Democrat politician if there is a climate crisis and see if you get a different answer, lol. Yes, the left.

    The sun goes through cycles, too, lol. In the game of predicting "crisis level warming" to the tune of 0.4 degrees centigrade, the sun's cycles absolutely have an effect. The rejection of this is the reason scientists' models don't work. It's a factor.

    Many scientists who are "raising the flag" also admit that the politicians need to tone it down.

    I oppose calling something a crisis so that liberals can implement an economy-killing scam while they get rich off of it. That is what I oppose.
     
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    A locomotive with no normal transmission goes from 0 to whatever you want. The EV eliminates the need. Why would you put one back in. The only use for a transmission is to match the intended speed of a vehicle with is peak torque. If that is at 3000 rpm, the constant shifting is to match the speed with the motor around that rpm.

    Electrics have peak torque from 0 to its maximum rev limit.
    Why introduce gears you don’t need which just adds drag. You need to do some research. This is getting tiresome.

    Electrics eliminated transmissions which creat drag add weight and make performance worse. I suppose you’ve ridden on an electric train or subway. Their acceleration is awesome and their speed is only limited because they are governed for safety.
     
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    Who cares?
     
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    The value of your contributions to this forum, as evidenced above, are difficult to express in mere words.
     
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    Then don't waste any words.
     

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