Internal USSC Machinations: Roberts a Late Switch

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  1. Radio Refugee

    Radio Refugee New Member

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    I'm not too familiar with the author here but....she's got some history as a court correspondent and it has an internal consistency. There are no quoted sources as one would expect. Read it and weep.

    Much more...
     
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    Jan Crawford has been a legal correspondent for quite a while. She used to work for PBS and now works for CBS, so yes, she has some credibility.
     
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    Eighty Deuce New Member Past Donor

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    Here was an article by Salon on Friday that caught my eye then. Here is a key excerpt:

    The author, Paul Campos, picked up on it by Friday. The four remaining, and now "dissenting" Judges, left the clues all over the final opinion that Roberts had flipped late.
     
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    Granny says he did it so's people get mad at Obama an' not vote fer him inna `lection...
    :?
    CBS: Roberts switched vote on health care
    Jul 02, 2012 - The decision by Chief Justice John Roberts to uphold President Obama's health care law will be studied for years -- and now details are emerging from the normally leak-proof Supreme Court itself.
     
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    So Roberts is willing to buck the pressures and opinions of those who disagree with him.

    Sounds like a Justice who is determined to not let other justices influence his decision.

    Good for him- rather shocks me but good for him.
     
  6. Radio Refugee

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    Quite the opposite. Roberts caved to the endless leftwad media propaganda campaign and ignored constitutional issues in order to cater to political goals.

    Inexcusable.
     
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    exotix New Member Past Donor

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    Also ...

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/...rt-chief-justice_n_1641481.html?ncid=webmail6


    In addition to private jostling within the Supreme Court, it appears that the public spotlight was a factor.
    The CBS report points to how Roberts pays attention to media coverage.
    With his court's reputation on the line, one source suggested that the chief justice became "wobbly" in the eyes of his conservative counterparts.

    As the court made its historic Affordable Care Act ruling on Thursday, suspicions arose regarding Roberts being scared off by Justice Antonin Scalia.

    The Daily Beast highlighted one theory from a reader who clerked on an appellate court.

    *He certainly didn't trust the dissenters, as he clearly instructed his law clerks to begin working on an alternative majority opinion (the final product was too polished and too long to have been written at the last minute).
    And he waited to see what was written*


    Coupled with that opinion were details that pointed to some oddities within the formatting of Scalia's dissent, via The Volokh Conspiracy.

    http://www.volokh.com/2012/06/28/more-hints-that-roberts-switched-his-vote/

    Notice also that his response to Roberts is tacked on at the end, rather than worked into the body of whatever he was writing (see page 64 of his dissent).

    For example, one would have expected Scalia to directly take on Roberts’ application of the Anti-Injunction Act, but his brief section on that act only mentions what “the Government” argues (see pages 26-28).


    The 5-4 ruling in favor of preserving the mandate may have also fit into a bigger picture.

    HuffPost blogger Adam Winkler noted that Roberts' heaviest interest is not health care, writing that the chief justice may want to "preserve the Court's capital to take on other big issues."

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/adam-winkler/the-roberts-court-is-born_b_1634070.html
     
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    so because Roberts ruled in favor of Obamacare, he is a coward?

    Lol. Yet if he had ruled against it you would still have been holding him up as a paragon of justice.

    LOL.

    Just can't stand an independent judiciary can you?
     
  9. Radio Refugee

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    Tell us how you describe Kagen, Sotomayer, Breyer and Ginsberg voting in lockstep over and over. WTF is that? Independent?

    The hard leftwads suffer no NY Times criticism at any time under any circumstances. Roberts was pre-demonized. He was slammed for a solid year BEFORE the decision.

    That you can't see it sez it all.
     
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    Full year my ass. He and the conservatives on the court were publicly lashed at Obama's first SotU.

    The irony is that during the same SofU Joe Wilson called it corectly: "You Lie!"
     
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    He caved, and the evidence is that crazy, pants-on-head stupid reasoning in his decision. Only a semi-literate moron would confuse a fine and a tax. Yet, we have a supreme court justice who literally thinks that ordering someone to purchase a product and making them pay the government if they don't constitutes a "tax". that same exact thing happens if I get pulled over for not having auto insurance, but in that case and in every other case, it's a fine. What Roberts did was redefine the word tax to include a fine. I mean high school drop outs understand this. The idiots at wikipedia get it. Junior high school civics students get it. So either the man was somehow convinced to change his vote, or he's literally too stupid to tie his own shoes. Either way, he's not a good choice for supreme court.
     
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    So you agree that Citizens United was decided correctly and constitutionally?
     

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