Internet Tax passes senate

http://www.ijreview.com/2013/05/504...taxation-without-representation-internet-tax/


I can't wait to hear the liberals on here scream about this. A tax that ALL will have to pay no matter their economic status.

Where is the outrage?

 

So its fair that brick & mortar stores must collect sales tax but these big internet giants do not?

 

Outrage will come if it gets shot down in the House. This is what taxes seem like to me (Granted, I know some taxes are needed...but not all of them):

 

I thought righties liked sales taxes?

 

What outrage? I think its more then fair.

 

There's that key word in there, 'fair'. How about the brick & mortar stores build out a web site and start selling their products online so they can get away from having to collect sales tax? In yet, those who make revenue over $1 million are exempt from this tax. Yes, we're after the 1%...the bottom 1%.

Fair's fair, right?

 

Why aren't you paying your sales tax? The buyer was supposed to pay their sales tax every time they bought on the internet.

Why are all of you so greedy?

 

All sales should be subject to state sales tax. You have it for all or none at all.

 

Taxes on the honor system! Always effective

 

Then I'd say none for all. This bill is more about the brick & mortar companies, just like any other weaning good, crying & moaning about how some one else is doing better than them. Rather than figuring out how to beat them, we're going to spend all of our money on putting in corrupt politicians to slam all of us with more unnecessary legislation.

This isn't a Marketplace 'Fairness' bill, this is a 'If you can't beat 'em, get politicians to make it harder for them to win' bill. These type of bills aren't hurting those companies, they're hurting the consumer. There is no fairness in that, just a bunch of fat cats wanting more for themselves.

 

Of course, since its ok for millionaires to exempt from everything us little people have to do.

 

Okay, I called Liz Warren and complained before the vote. The big online sellers were for it because they have to do it now. That covers 50% of the sales. Who are the ones selling the other 50%? Many could be company start ups and small businesses selling specific specialized products. A woman in CA has a company with 6 employees selling high end fashion products and has sales over a million dollars. What was her overhead before this vote? Was she buying high end products and selling them at an almost break-even price with little overhead? What will happen to her now?

The big sellers wanted to get their advantage by selling in volume. Making the little companies pay the same tax gets them that advantage back. Most people buy online for convenience or for specialized products. What hurts the main street stores is the volume selling by the big online firms, not what the taxes are. The bill is not going to help main street stores and will hurt many small businesses strictly using online sales.

The monopoly big online sellers will continue.

 

See, you are as uniformed as Warren's staff. The big internet giants are paying those taxes. Hence 50% of the online sales are taxed. Much lower internet sellers are working with minimum overhead selling less volume. They are ones that will be hurt. Advantage: Giants.

 

Only if the big brick and mortar stores start charging you shipping on top of the taxes too, then ok.

How is it "fair", for example, when someone buys, say a motor vehicle, pays sales tax on that vehicle, yet the state makes me pay sales tax again on the same vehicle if the owner sells it to me?

Is it the process that is being taxed, or the item?

Why should I pay sales tax to my state for an item that was purchased online from another state? Does this now set the stage to collect taxes on items I purchase in another state if I physically go to that state and buy it? Is my state now going to want me to claim every item I purchase from any other state and then pay them sales tax on it? If I buy a lawn mower from a Sears in OH (I will pay OH sales tax), then will my state also want me to pay sales tax to them too?

It's just another GD way for the government to get more of my money.

 

So if I purchase an album from the Amazon MP3 store, I now get taxed?

 

What this is going to boil down to is the ability for the government to collect more money. Raising the level of income on some mom & pop shop, just so they can squeeze more out of them. The budget that came out of the White House would have some clauses in there that Warren Buffet suggested (Not directly, but indirectly). As he said that no one should pay less percentage of taxes than their secretary. Most people would say yeah, that's great. Here's the problem, they are trying to find ways to make the secretary pay more taxes, thus, allowing them to collect more taxes from the rich. This will be accomplished through the varying changes with the 'Chained CPI (Consumer Price Index)' (A good blog about it: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/04/11/heres-what-chained-cpi-really-means-up-to-849-less-for-someone-who-retired-in-2001/) I could be wrong on this, but I have my doubts.

If folks truly wanted it to be fair, they should've just went with the tides. If more folks are buying things online, then move your business online. The customer is always right.

 

Welcome to the new realm of 'Fairness'. However, it's not official until the House of Reps vote on it and Obama signs it. The next fight is in the House, hopefully they knock this bill down. With their track record, who knows where they will bend on this one.

 

Maybe we could let them ignore other laws also so their business won't suffer? Like hiring illegals or paying income taxes?

 

Check again. In most states, you were already taxed. If your state has no sales tax, you will not pay a tax.

 

Well, I live in Oregon, so that's a relief.

 

Get a clue the conservative Republicans are pushing for this. The tea party Republicans and I are against it. That makes me nauseous being a real liberal.

 

The outrage is a sales tax system that imposes a higher tax rate on the poorest who spend most of their money and a lower tax rate on the richest who can afford to save a portion of their income.

But if a state has it, I can certainly see the argument that the effective tax evasion puts local businesses at an unfair disadvantage.

 

Oh I'm sorry, you seem to think I care who is pushing for this. Call them Republicans, call them Democrats, call them Liberals, call them Conservatives, call them whomever you want. If they vote for it, they support it.

And by the way, it passed the Democrat controlled Senate by 69-27, that means both parties voted for it.

 

Good job Congress. Will you take the blame when American companies start moving overseas to avoid these new taxes and Americans purchase abroad? Or will you simply outlaw them like you did online gambling?

 

The Tea Party Republicans are the true conservatives.

And since the senate is controlled by the Dems this is a Democrat bill whether libs want to admit it or not.