Iran - Destory Israel

Discussion in 'Middle East' started by raymondo, Dec 3, 2011.

  1. Jonsa

    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    LMAO!
    Looks like another "bumpersticker" historian.

    Imagine a jew hater, quoting the most notable jew hater of her time.
    She didn't much like protestants either, transfering a whole lot of them to transylvania. Even her son didn't much like her religious policies. But, funnily enough over time, as she encountered the vagaries of being the head of a country she came to rely on jewish finances and acumen and lightened up a lot at the behest of one of her favoured advisors Abraham Mendel Theben (that's right a jew).

    You should really really really stop reading lists of quotes without context or understanding
     
  2. Mario Milano

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    well there isn't too much confusion by her words of why she kicked out the Jews from Hungary, I can sense you are going to pretend you don't understand what she meant.
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    MARIA THERESA, Queen of Hungary and Bohemia (1771 - 1789) "Henceforth no Jew, no matter under what name, will be allowed to remain here without my written permission. I know of no other troublesome pest within the state than this race, which impoverished the people by their fraud, usury and money-lending and commits all deeds which an honorable man despises. Subsequently they have to be removed and excluded from here as much as possible."
     
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    Ok, and this is important because...
     
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    Mario why not jut quote Hitler? maybe that way you will make your point...lol
     
  5. Marlowe

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    I'm yet to see you posting anything informative

    Keep trolling, its all you're good at.


    TA-TA
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  6. Jack Napier

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    Should be interesting to see how many of these fair Jews, and Jews that go on about 'racism', say about what you have just written.

    If I had written that, swapping the word 'Paki', for '****', how do you think that would play out?
     
  7. Jack Napier

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    I thought it was 109, but let's not split hairs ;)

    It's certainly something that Jews like to cite, ALL THE TIME.

    So, since it is their cite, it needs to be examined.

    I've said it before.

    If you took on a new job today, and were sacked by next week, citing that the staff were not v nice to you, I may believe you.

    If it happened again, I may believe you.

    If I met you again, in ten years, and told me, that by this time, you had had another 107 jobs, had been sacked from them ALL, and it was everyone else's fault, I may not believe you, anymore.

    I think that is fair.

    Do you think that would be fair, for my to start thinking, 'Wait, surely you must be playing a part in creating your own anatagonism'?

    The thing is, after it happened to you twice, I imagine you would mend your ways.

    If it is true that Jews have been expelled, 109 times, in so many lands, among so many different people, over such large expanses of time, what are we to do? Blame everyone else?

    Assume that Edward 1 and many others were all wannabe 'Nazi's', and that the Jews were a lovely, polite, fair people, that just so happened to get drive out, over 100 times?

    To believe that, you would have to believe that all non Jews have always lied.

    That seems BS to me.

    But even today, even when they cite the 109 times, all they want is blind belief that everyone else ways always at error. Never them. And they want sympathy.

    They never ever want to ask 'why'..?

    I feel it a valid question, if I were Jewish, I might even wish to take the blinkers off, and ask for myself.

    Why?

    Assuming that the rest of mankind was not involved in some secret undergound Nazi plot, and assuming that not everyone else is always wrong - all of the time, and the Jews right, all of the time, it is a worthy question.

    Historically, I believe it comes down to several things, perhaps the main one being trading practice and rampant usury.

    These seem to be consistant, in just about every instance.

    Usury. This is the main one, as far as I can see. In days of old, when Jews came to Europe, they subverted the trading laws, and were, no question, practioners of rampant usury. I guess you could see them as being the Lehman Bros or Goldman Sachs of their day. Christian Europe did not approve of usury, neither does Islam. Jews do. Esp when used on non Jews. This repeated practice eventually provoked a negative response, and would often lead to ill feeling toward the Jews. Edward the 1st expelled Jews for hundreds of years. It was, I think, Oliver Cromwell that persuaded them to come back.

    That is not an isolated incident, indeed, it appears to be the primary reason, the usury, and the love of money.

    It's not a 'theory' to suggest that, it is a documented fact, that the genesis of usury, and all it's enslavements was a Jewish creation, and something v much practised by Jews, for centuries and centuries.

    Who do you think the money changers were that Jesus threw out? Muslims? Hindu? Christians? They were Jews, not the same Jews as today, it has to be said, the Jews then have no historical or genetic relation to the Jews of today. They like to pretend that they do, as an excuse to steal and murder.

    Another cited reason, were allegations and convictions against a % of Jews, who were said to have engaged in what can only be decribed as sick and ritualistic murders of non Jewish children.

    They were more than allegations, some Jews were convicted and sent to death for it.

    They may argue that all of these courts(sic) were always wrong, and the accusers always lying.

    They may argue that convictions were often secured through use of torture, or that the courts were slanted.

    And, in some cases, they would have a point.

    But if that is true, then it is also true that today, Jews extract confessions, for often trivial 'offences', from non Jews, and do it through...the use of torture!

    So it takes cognative dissonance for them to be able to use torture, to extract confessions, which they then take as absolute, while, at the same time, rejecting all historical convictons extracted from Jews, through the use of torture.

    You see, the psyche is that they want it both ways.

    They want to take the position that on 109 occasions, they were always the victims, and that the other states were always just evil or wrong.

    They want to dimiss all historical convictions of child killing/ritual, by Jews, that were obtained using torture, while using torture to extract confessions today, from a boy that threw a stone, before they lock him away, in solitary confinement.

    They cannot see this is odd.

    They literally cannot, I have come to that conclusion.

    I don't think it's because they are thick.

    They just do not seem to be ABLE to see it.

    No one is saying that every Jew creeps around at night, stealing kids, and engaging in ritual abuse.

    But...

    We know that there have been people, convicted of all manner of truly sick stuff, including murder as ritual.

    We know that there are plenty of sick bastards, NOT EXCLUSIVELY JEWISH, who abuct, sexually abuse, and torture kids.

    We know that small and insular communities, within a community, are more likely to cover this up, even if it means defaming the people making the allegations....see here...http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...urious-case-vicki-polin-awareness-centre.html

    We know that a % of Jews, NOT all, engage in ritual animal torture, albeit this is banned in Europe...

    http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...rge-scale-animal-abuse-suffering-killing.html

    And finally, we know, that despite other methods being feasible, or even to doing it at all, as some moden Jews are coming around to, that there are still a % who, get a non medical man, called a Mohel, to brutally mutilate little boys (not always just babies), and then suck their bleeding penis.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/lates...ane-german-courts-protects-innocent-harm.html

    Oh, and we know that Jews have engaged in 60 yrs of blood letting and child abuse, where they are now...

    http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...e-palestinian-children-electric-shocking.html

    So.

    When you put all of that together....
     
  8. Durandal

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    Don't Destroy the USA, Destroy all Americans

    Don't Destroy the Vatican, Destroy all Catholics

    Don't Destroy Africa, Destroy all Blacks

    Thoughts?
     
  9. Jack Napier

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    Thoughts?

    I think that one thing is clear.

    The man made constuct, of organised religion, esp the three primary one's, has accounted for more 'reason' to kill, enslave, dehumanise, persecute, torture, etc, etc, etc, than anything else - ever.

    That is the bottom line.

    People talk about 'Nazis'.

    FFS, they were dominant for what, five years or so, and directly or indirectly, they killed a lot of people, for their beliefs.

    But....that is NOTHING, if you compare it to the collective figure of those murdered, at the behest of the RC Church, directly or otherwise.

    I bet that would run into hundreds of millions.

    And they are still around!
     
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    Well a) I would say that that is a flat out lie simply based on the fact that there is less than a 0.00000001% Jewish population in Egypt estimated at less than 100, and b) even if what you just said wasn't the blatant lie that it is I would ask why Muslim women are not allowed to marry Jewish men? Now I can answer why Coptic women are married to Muslim men, it's because they are kidnapped, raped, and forced to marry them.

    What a complete load of horse(*)(*)(*)(*), they were not just Egyptians like Muslim Egyptians they Dhimmi Egyptians along with the Christians you mentioned.
     
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    No there isn't anything like evidence to shot that, in fact there is ample evidence that Jews like Christians were treated as 3rd class Dhimma and did not enjoy equal rights in these apartheid Islamic lands.
     
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    Hajo Meyer is a far left activist who hates the state of Israel, once again if calling for the extermination of the worlds Jews is not antisemitism in your book what exactly is? There is legitimate criticism of Israel and antisemitism and some people do conflate the two but this is not one of those cases. :roll:
     
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    Only straight up (*)(*)(*)(*)ing retards don't know that the Protocols of the Elders of Zion are word for word plagiarisms of Dialogue aux enfers entre Machiavel et Montesquieu or (Dialogue in Hell Between Machiavelli and Montesquieu) by Maurice Joly. :roll:
     
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    Did Hajo Meyer call for the extermination of the worlds Jews?

    No he did not, that is a disgusting, but charachteristic implication by you.

    He was in the most infamous camp of all.

    How dare you smear and hate upon him.

    Shame on you..
     
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    No the Iranians from the OP did, try following along.

    WTF is wrong with you?

    No wonder you still don't know that the Protocols are a proven plagiarism, forgery, and fraud. :roll:
     
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    I think there should be several threads made with your suggestions.

    Could not be any more ridiculous than allowing this one to remain open.

    Yea, jewfest.
     
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    This was also the case in Lebanon- before the civil war, of course.
     
  18. Jack Napier

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    What we 100% DO know, I SAID, is that they were written around about a century ago.

    No one knows for sure who the authors were, your claim is a direct Wiki lift, and would, in itself, be deserving of greater exploration.

    However.

    The POINT, and why I summraised it, was not to get into theories about who wrote what, but to take something written, a century ago, and see if at all, it fits today.

    If it does, then either it points to some structure plan, or it is ALL a STAGGERING coincidence...

    So, leaving aside theories about writers and plagarism....

    This is a summary of what was written over 100 yrs ago.

    If it is BS, it should SOUND like it today,you should NOT be able to find consistant examples of it being evidenced.

    So.

    Today is 2012...

    Think of the world, think of how nations are...


    THEY] are superior to the rest of humanity (called "goyim"), who are but mere "beasts" or "cattle" compared to [THEM]. The goyim should be exterminated for the most part, with only enough left remaining to be [THEIR] slaves and servants, and these goyim ruled by despotic [THEIR] World Government, with all the wealth of the world being transferred to [THEM]. In order to achieve this objective, the following plans are to be implemented

    :■Control gold and banking in order to control governments through the money power. (Protocol 1) (Can it to be show that today, the Jewish international banks and other financial constructs, do this, today? Can it be at all shown that Jewish money essentially makes up the biggest share, or a v large share of what a man needs, if he wants to be 'president'?)

    ■Control the governments of the goyim from behind the scenes.(Can it be shown, at all, that there are constructs which are not political parties, which have such power, that they do, in practice, control Gov, from behind the scenes? Can it be shown to be happening in the US? Who is mostly doing it?)

    ■Rule by force, violence, fear, bribery, blackmail, treachery, and deceit. (Any evidence, at all, of Jews doing this, anywhere at all...?)

    ■Destroy the minds of the goyim through subversion of the "education" system.(Well, if the above has examples, the more one's Gov is infected, the more that state ed will suffer in quality. Any evidence of that, in the most infected country, outwith Israel, who will ensure THEY are well educated)

    ■Reduce the goyim to poverty and serfdom, and keep them in perpetual labor to distract their minds from resisting [THEM]. (Well, I can see that now, in many different forms, and it has not just sort of happened, kinda by accident. You know that at this sort of level, there are no real accidents, things are created, including war, sometimes years in advance of them happening. Things that people are never spoken to about or consulted. Moreover, you know well that it is financial crooks and banks that have plunged the US and Europe into a recession, which is going to get worse. )

    ■Use communism to destroy the aristocracy of the goyim nations. (Protocol 3) (Well, did that happen then? In did to the Tzars. Brutually murdered, in typical ugly manner, in a collective manner, very telling. Communism was a Jewish construct. You know that. Not so long ago, you could be a Zionist and a Communist, and I suppose you still could, however, since Communism served it's purpose, it was then dispensed with, so that now the Zionist inclines to a sort of right wing ideal)

    ■Destroy belief in God among the goyim, and replace it with materialism. (Protocol 4) (Remember, this was 100yrs ago. Imo, the more a nation is infected, the more it will replace anything goodly or spiritual, with slavishness to materialism. No prizes for guessing where it is most out of control..)

    ■Lead the masses by lies via [THEIR] controlled press. (Lol. From 50+ indep media companies in 1980, to 5 in the US today! Four are owned by Zionist Jews, and the fifth, although not owned by a Jew, is owned by someone who is even more of a Zionist than the other four!)

    ■Use speculation, as opposed to sound investing, to transfer the wealth of the world into [THEIR] hands. (Protocol 6) (Well? We can see where their criminal speculating, usury, and other financial scams have got us today)

    ■Destroy the youth of the goyim through false doctrines. (Protocol 9) (There are lots of examples of this, the perversion of Christian Zionism being one)

    ■Take away the liberties of the goyim under the pretense of protecting their safety. (Protocol 11) (Written 100 yrs ago, as a projection of the future! FFS, HELLO!)

    ■Destroy the freedom of the press and bring all organs of the press under the control of [THEM]. (Protocol 12) (Ring ring, clue phone, its for you..)

    ■Use Secret Societies and Freemasonic Lodges as recruiting grounds for goyim agents. (Protocol 15) (Many US Presidents are/were involved in such, and all, for several decades now, have been like Romney is today, ultimately agents for Jewish supremacists)

    ■Engineer economic depressions to bring down the goyim nations. (Protocol 20) (Come on Doc, they do not even deny this stuff)

    ■Use the tyranny of usury, and especially lending to governments, to enslave the goyim. (Protocol 20) (Again! How can you deny this?)

    ■Through use of agents in all places of influence, throw the nations of the goyim into turmoil until they willingly accept [THEIR] World Government. (Protocol 9) (Well, it is not looking good, is it? All the signs are there. Part way done, imo)


    Jack
     
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    What's that got to do with Hajo Meyer then?

    Nothing.

    You did not seem to care about his word.

    Why do you speedily dismiss what that Jew says?

    Is it only some Jews that you favour, and not other Jews?
     
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    Now why would I quote the founder of Israel?

    Don't you love it when Jews wave the Hitler but they never mention that if it wasn't for Hitler Isreal wouldn't exist today. Israel should be building monuments of Hitler as the founding father of their stolen country!
     
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    Yep you are right I just counted the list again, man what does that tell you about the Jews when people start to lose count of how many times they have been thrown out of countries? 109 times in 2000 years that works out of an average of under every 20 years they are being evicted from somewhere. Man doesn't anyone check their references before they move into a country?
     
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    Well, yes, for sure, if it were not for the rise of the Reich, and the NA, then there would have been no Jewish state(sic), in that region, that is for sure.

    It was always going to take a catalysying set of conditions to occur, so that not only could a state be self declared after, not only were we silenced about unlimited Jewish immigration there, what they also managed to do, rather cynical, is then use that era, over and over, to condition us to feel hesitant about ever being critical of Jews, specifically 'israel', since Zionist made it the focal point for Jews, and actually the jews define themselves more now with a material state, rather than the spiritual aspect, or any spiritual aspect.

    The early 20th century was an intiguing time, for Jews and Zionism. Zionists wished to reinvent ALL Jews (well, maybe not the Ethiopians..), as being a single people, irrespective of whether the person actually gave a crap about Judaism.

    It was all about that, all about the invention of a people, who, as you can see, would follow a pattern of Jewish supremacist ideals.

    Most other forms of ethnic or racial supremacism are shunned today.

    We would be taught, maybe by our peers, to hate on white supremacists, in some cases, their very words are made illegal.

    There is only ONE kind of supremacism that is allowed today, and that is overt Jewish supremacism, and it is THAT supremacism, the freaking elephant in the room, which is BY FAR the most dangerous kind.

    You don't need to just bow and accept it though.

    Weak people sell out, sometimes for money.

    Anyway, back to the NA, you do know, of course, that DURING WW2, we had Zionists wanting to be on the side of the NA and Italian Fascism?

    They were called the Lehi and their leader.....went on to be a PM of 'israel'.

    Moreover, these Zionists were 100% supporters also of National Bolshevism, and we all know what that led to, murder, or a scale larger than the 'holocaust'.

    SILENCE.

    It may be that the NA of Germany have died.

    But what created them, that still lives on.
     
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    Lol.

    Well, they remained firmly expelled from England, for many centuries, grrr to you, Oliver Cromwell!

    I think, historically, they are expelled for a time, and, as with all things, over time, allowed back in again.

    From what I can see, historically, the same pattern of behaviours, or things that led to expulsion, do appear to have a repeated theme, mostly surrounding trading practices.

    The myth goes that Jews of history 'had' to be 'traders', as they were almost forced into being so.

    I think that is false.

    I think they gravitated toward this way of trading, because, for them, it is part of what they are, it is part of the basis of their culture, so I think it dovetailed with the actual writings, a reflection of them as it were, esp in regard to usury.

    No wonder so many good men, great men of old, were so robustly against a Europe or nation based on usury.

    Look at what allowing it to run rampant has done?

    Here, we have a pay day loan(sic) company, that is really marketed directly at those they know are the worse off, and need money, and they give out smallish loans, at up to 4000%interest.

    In some states in the US, I believe these companies are banned, and the law really needs to catch up with them here.

    Here they are...


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wonga.com

    The company was founded by Errol Damelin and Jonty Hurwitz.

    Wonga has been criticised for an Annual Percentage Rate (APR) of over 4,000% which it is mandated to display according to European Law.

    In May 2012 the company was informed by the Office of Fair Trading that it must improve its debt collection practices, after it emerged it had sent letters to customers in 2010 accusing them of committing fraud.


    Take it from me, these are parasites.

    Now.

    Who OWNS it?

    Mr Damelin grew up in South Africa where he studied at the University of Cape Town. He holds a masters degree from Boston University's School of Management. He moved to Israel and in 1995 became an early-stage corporate-finance banker at leading investment banking boutique YLR Investment Management, now part of the IDB group, the largest holding company in Israel.
     
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    No, generally speaking you listen to people and evaluate what they say. He's a brilliant man, but just a tad looney. He cannot substantiate his accusations. He cannot offer any proof of his accusations. Some of his positions are readily refutable since they are not based on the actual events, but on an outre interpretation.

    Much like the revisonist nonsense you take as gospel. The stuff you post can only be believed by a bigot. The intellectual dishonesty of the references and the garbage you post to this forum are transparent to people with a modicum of intelligence. My position is further proven by your cowardly and ludicrous insistence you aren't a jew hater despite the overheliming evidence you have presented us with. The protocols - what next Treblinka was a rest camp?
     
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    They never mention it because its a crock of excrement that only twisted bigots like to eat.
     

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