Irrational Dr.Rand Paul and Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene claim Vax and masks don't work.

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    Fake Science Pays. What will people do for a billion dollars?

    “Shortly after the World Health Organization declared Covid-19 a global pandemic on March 11, 2020, markets collapsed and economies around the world plunged into recession.”

    “One year later, things couldn’t be more different: a record 493 new billionaires joined the list this year, propelled by a red-hot stock market and unprecedented economic stimulus. Among those newcomers are at least 40 new entrants who draw their fortunes from companies involved in fighting Covid-19. Some, such as Moderna CEO Stéphane Bancel and BioNTech cofounder Uğur Şahin, have become household names thanks to the vaccines they helped develop. Others got rich making everything from personal protective equipment and diagnostic tests to antibody treatments and software that helps authorities schedule vaccination campaigns, which will be essential in reopening economies and returning to normal life.”
    FORBES, Meet The 40 New Billionaires Who Got Rich Fighting Covid-19, By Giacomo Tognini, Forbes Staff, BILLIONAIRES 2021, Apr 6, 2021. (emphasis mine)
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/giacom...o-got-rich-fighting-covid-19/?sh=2192c24d17e5
     
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    Lefties are always running some sort of scam. I'd like to know who paid Fauci off to carry their water.

    And what the HELL is Biden doing about China's culpability in all of this? Not a damned thing.
     
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    The still thinking Left knows Biden is a crook.

    "This smells of the dawn of the same old. To quote the Who: meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

    It should go without saying that someone who advised DuPont on how to avoid regulations is not someone we want advising this new administration."
    THE GUARDIAN, Dear Joe Biden: are you kidding me?, The president-elect has tapped a former DuPont consultant to join his Environmental Protection Agency transition board, BY Erin Brockovich, Thu 19 Nov 2020.
    https://www.theguardian.com/comment...-joe-biden-are-you-kidding-me-erin-brockovich
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    100% because they contradict the official narrative ..
     
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    We don't have the data, but the common sense explanation for the current issue in FL is that the Delta variant can live inside vaccinated people and be transmitted more easily to others, despite the vaccines.

    Funny, the leftist science deniers cannot admit that this type of spread does NOT occur with small pox or polio.

    We're not wearing masks, as a species, for the next 100 years. Leftists are so short sighted, and so ignorant to the realities of the science, that they just want to flex their totalitarian muscle instead of thinking about other solutions.
     
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    Big Bad Government + Big Bad Business = Death Inc.

    “The richest of these new billionaires is Li Jianquan, the president of Chinese medical products manufacturer Winner Medical, which ramped up production of masks and medical overalls to supply frontline workers across the globe. Winner Medical’s IPO on the Shenzhen stock exchange in September 2020 instantly made Jianquan, 64, a billionaire several times over thanks to his 68% stake in the company, worth $6.8 billion.

    Some vaccine companies have been so successful that their rise over the last year has minted several new billionaires from the same company, including four apiece from Moderna and Tianjin-based CanSino Biologics, which saw its one-shot vaccine approved by Chinese regulators in February. And it’s not just the vaccine discoverers: companies that mass produce the vaccines and contract research firms that help firms run clinical trials have both reaped the rewards, creating new fortunes for people like Juan López-Belmonte López of Spanish pharma outfit Rovi and Karin Sartorius-Herbst and Ulrike Baro of German biopharma firm Sartorius AG.” (emphasis mine)
    FORBES, Meet The 40 New Billionaires Who Got Rich Fighting Covid-19, By Giacomo Tognini, Forbes Staff, BILLIONAIRES 2021, Apr 6, 2021. (emphasis mine)
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/giacom...o-got-rich-fighting-covid-19/?sh=2192c24d17e5
     
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    No one needed to Pay Fauci - Fauci is the ring leader - who was involved in funding the kind of change of function research in Wuhan that created this monster.

    Anyway you slice it or dice it - Fauci has a huge conflict of interest - because of the above and because he is in bed with the drug companies.

    Never Mind China's culpability - we need to clean up our own back yard first .. we were the one's likely telling China to not release "details" as we are knee deep in the who haa on this one.
     
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    We do have the data .. data collected by other nations such as Israel - where over 70 % of new Delta cases were vaccinated people.

    God forbid the CDC collect this data though .. can't have that now can we. This is disturbing.
     
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    What do you do to a guy that funded a disease that has killed 600,000+ Americans and then continues to lie about it? Fauci has now killed more Americans than died in the Civil War, WWI, or WWII or Vietnam.

    The guy needs to face the same penalties the holocaust perpetrators faced.
     
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    it's just been proven condoms do not help prevent men from getting pregnant either, the odds are the same with or without

    but good news is, condoms do still increase the odds partners won't get pregnant
     
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    So COVID doesn't affect men?
     
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    we were talking about condoms....

    masks protect the other people more than they protect yourself when it comes to covid

    but like condoms, neither is 100%
     
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    Fauci is the NIH's Money Honey.

    "A new study published in the peer-reviewed journal Antiviral Research (Vol. 16, April 2020) is entitled, “The spike glycoprotein of the new coronavirus 2019-nCoV contains a furin-like cleavage site absent in CoV of the same clade.”

    It reveals that the CoVid-19 coronavirus contains unique features that allow it to function as a more efficient weapon system for human-to-human transmission, which helps explain why the virus has been impossible to contain (even under “quarantine” conditions, which have universally failed in China, Japan, Korea and elsewhere)."
    BIOLOGICAL WEAPONS NEWS, Confirmed: CoVid-19 coronavirus found to contain unique “gain-of-function” property “for efficient spreading in the human population” … exact quote from science paper just published in Antiviral Research, By Mike Adams, 02/19/2020.
    https://biologicalweapons.news/2020...for-efficient-spreading-human-population.html
     
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    And, of course, the whole body of science is based on YOU, right?
     
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    Oh Joy - Lets create Pandora .. and let her out of the box .. Good post.
     
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    Masks have been ineffective in preventing the spread - did you not get the memo ?
     
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    Well, the latest science shows that the vaccines are only 50% effective against Delta and that the vaccinated spread the virus just as much as the unvaccinated do. And, during past mask mandates, cases continued to climb during the mask mandates. To claim otherwise is misinformation.
     
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    You're the one that said that study after study demonstrates that mask work. Well, the mask didn't work in my case. Who knows, masks may work in some cases, but there is no way of proving that masks work in all cases, or in any cases for that matter-- as I've continually proved here by pointing out my own experience. You still can't show me where science proves that mask wearing will prevent you from getting COVID. You can't show me because its impossible to prove such a thing. Again, the scientific mask I wore didn't prevent me from getting COVID.
     
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    And, for some reason, you believed that the studies were done on you...
     
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    The "geniuses" like Fauci, who run things in this country must have carefully listed the compelling reasons for supporting gain of function research.They had better hope the USG can keep those documents secret for a very long time.
     
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    Which studies?
     
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    It now appears little Randy's wife may have used his insider information to attempt to profiteer off one of the Covid drugs being recommended which he FAILED TO REPORT IN HIS REQUIRED FINANCIAL DISCLOSURE until a year and a half too late.
     
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    14 clinical trial conducted from 1946 - 2018 all showed that masks do not work to prevent the spread of viruses.
     
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    Go ahead and post your Rachel Maddow source for this.
     
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    They only work if everyone uses them and keeps them clean and never lets them touch anything (and what are the odds of that happening)?
    Rand is not right or wrong. His statement was too general. Also he made the mistake of “tweeting while republican”
    I’ve seen good examples of both arguments in here.
    I’ve seen the one about boxes of disposable masks with the message “does not protect against covid” and another good example of a spit was landing on someone’s motorcycle face shield instead of their faces.
    Unfortunately we all lose since they’ve decided to make this political instead of scientific
    I wear mine still but clean it often but so what. I’m sure it’s loaded with germs after a few hours.
    The other day I dropped my mask on the street in nyc (outside part) and seriously debated for 2 minutes if I should put it back on. (How pathetic of me to even contemplate that), I ended up just pulling my shirt over my mouth and nose and grabbing one from a local CVS.
    Unfortunately most of you are getting suckered into the political debate aspect of this.
    I’m in NYC for the summer (upper east side with all the “elites”) and I can tell you one thing. Nobody’s CHIN has to worry about catching covid!
    I should take a pic one day. About 9 out of 10 mask wearers have it on their chin
    Pathetic!
     
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