Is climate change risk an invention of self interested and stupid?

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  1. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So you have no data that you can provide showing the temperature data is correct. Thank you.
     
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    I gave you the data. Your rebuttal is “Nuh uh” which isn’t an argument. Feel free to provide your data showing mine was incorrect. We both know you can’t do that though.
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    As usual, you have no clue but claim you do. Nothing new with you.
     
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    So you can’t provide any data the current temperature data is incorrect. Thank you.
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Can you explain why every iteration of the global temperature model changes the past temperature?
     
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    OK let us look at that satellite data from 1979. What do you see, warming, cooling or no trend at all?
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    Globally averaged temperature anomaly time series for the Temperature Lower Troposphere (TLT). The plot shows the warming of the troposphere over the last 3 decades which has been attributed to human-caused global warming.
     
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    Can you provide any data of your own that shows the current data is incorrect?
     
  8. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Didn't think you could answer that one. You prove you are just a troll by ignoring everything and concentrating on nonsense.
     
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    But we do have satellites!
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    Globally averaged temperature anomaly time series for the Temperature Lower Troposphere (TLT). The plot shows the warming of the troposphere over the last 3 decades which has been attributed to human-caused global warming.
     
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    So you can’t provide any data showing the current data is wrong. Thank you.
     
  11. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Or, the actual temperatures vs the computer models which all of the alarmism is based on.

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    Thanks for proving my point.
     
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    That you can’t support your position? My pleasure. It’s what I always do.
     
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    Warming. Who has said differently ??? But there is no proof that human CO2 emissions are responsible for that warming.
     
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    A perfect example of giving the Right exactly what they ask for and the Right then rejecting what they ask for.

    The Right objected to the temperature station site locations claiming they were near heat sources and they should be removed from the data set. So when they were removed and the charts updated with the bad stations removed, the Right then cries foul that charts were changed because the more accurate charts do not support their claims.
     
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    How many were removed ??? How many stations are there ??? How many square miles per station ??? How many ocean stations (which have nothing to do with atmospheric reradiation) ???

    What claims are those ???
     
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    Right-wing deniers, of course!
    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2018/03/03/some-data-suggests-global-cooling-started-in-2006/
    Some data suggests Global Cooling started in 2006
    Guest Blogger / March 3, 2018
    Guest essay by David Archibald’

    Many good things come to an end and that includes the Modern Warm Period. Mild winters and early springs are now spoken of in the past tense. The peak of the Modern Warm Period was 2006
     
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    Are you denying the Right demanded that poorly sited stations should be removed from the data set?
    Are you denying that after they are removed the graphs of the data set would look different?
    If not then the blink graph posted is a red herring!!!!
    Admit it, you will feel better in the morning.
     
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    So what ??? How many of these “right wing deniers” who deny the current warming trend which started in the 1800’s are there ???
     
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    Translation: You can’t answer simple questions.
     
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    So as expected you have nothing.

    All scientists demand that corrupted data be removed from any data series.
     
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    Exactly. Alarmists never answer simple questions.
     
  23. edthecynic

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    He said hypocritically not answering simple questions.
     
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    So where are your answers to my questions ???
     
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    And would that not change the data graph?
    So deniers showing a changed data graph to claim the data was manipulated would be deliberately deceptive, yes or no?
     

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