continuation: Your education and understanding of both geology and plate tectonics are quite clearly very limited or corrupted by the blinders of Dogma. The movement of the plates on this planet require enormous time frames, otherwise the similarities in coastlines you refer to would not exist due to massive and destructive seismic action. Might I suggest you stick to scripture as an area of expertise?
OhZone: The splitting up was a gradual process over a very long time which is why they are similar, your right if it was sudden there would be strong evidence for that. You just demonstrated the length of time to have the continents divide was a very long period would be required. And this has nothing to do with biological evolution except for the oddities like species in Australia evolving along utterly unique lines to explain that. human expansion was demonstrated well to be from Africa through Asia and Europe then along temporary routes of access into the other Continents over hundreds of thousands of years with interbreeding between the various species of human to what we are today. Thankfully due to the sequencing of the human genome and the advancement of genetics to add to our knowledge of this not relying on just archeology and related sciences for physical evidence alone just one bone can give us DNA to discover new human ancestors. That is very exciting to me both as an Atheist and human being that our race is ascending in our understanding in this area. A deity or deities really isn't necessary to explain this or even necessary.
You didn't read the links I provided on the subject did you? Have you ever wondered just what it is that cause these tectonic plates to move? What do you think would happen to those plates if they were subject to a very strong magnetic field from some large cosmic body coming very close to Earth? "scripture as an area of expertise" View attachment 36124
You didn't read my link either. http://chapmanresearch.org/PDF/Glacial Cataclysm.pdf Here is a snip from this 50 page article: "The frightful hurricanes just alluded to were doubtless primary factors in the demise of so much insect and bird life during late Pleistocene times — for what agency other than extremely violent winds could have brought together in one place such dissimilar avian species as the following? They included :Grebes, herons, bitterns, storks, wood ibises, spoonbills, swans, various geese(including the snow goose), ducks, American vultures, kites, many kinds of hawks, falcons, eagles, caracaras, the Teratornis, quails, cranes, par-tridges, turkeys, rails, gallinules, parrots, coots, plovers, turnstones, woodcock, snipes, surf— scooters, stilts, sandpipers, barn owls, seven other owl species, flycatchers, woodpeckers, swallows, jays, crows, magpies, titmice, chickadees, ravens, mockingbirds, waxwings, thrashers, meadowlarks, shrikes, two species of blackbird, redwings, orioles, finches, sparrows and buntings. Remains of all these birds were discovered in the late Pleistocene tar-seeps at McKittrick in California, and the asphalt pits at Rancho La Brea in the same state. This extraordinary assemblage is not an isolated freak occurrence." "Although the formation of the deposits of muck is not clear, there is am ple evidence that at least portions of this material were deposited under catastrophic conditions. Mammal remains are for the most part dismembered and disarticulated, even though some fragments yet retain, in their frozen state, portions of ligaments, skin, hair and flesh. Twisted and torn trees are piled in splintered masses... at least four considerable layers of volcanic ash may be traced in these deposits, although they are extremely warped and distorted." It goes on to list such assemblages of prey, predator, and vegtation all over the world. Now what slow process would do this?
Granted I did not read the provided links beyond a quick view...I tend to ignore pseudo science and imaginative opinion when formulating the data required to create my own understanding. If by chance any cosmic body came close enough to our planet to allow it's magnetic field to have an impact on the Earth....The effects on plate tectonics would be irrelevant as all life above perhaps microbial would be extinct.
He's right any event that would move the crust that much in a short time with tidal effects of a dense object moving near Earth would wipe out most life on the planet short of the most basic life forms. Contrary to popular opinion scientists are not diabolical liars they observe the evidence and formulate hypothesis and theories based on it and if there were signs of a high mass stellar body moving near us through the solar system that was clearly evidenced they would have said so. A massive meteor hit our planets and things like Supervolcanos went off and there is clear evidence why is this so much different. The evidence accepted by science is plate tectonics and ice ages forming the surface of our planet and its features and that is supported by the evidence the oddities found may have yet to be explained but that on its own won't rule out the scientific explanation we have.
The pdf link contained mostly evidentiary information. http://chapmanresearch.org/PDF/Glacial Cataclysm.pdf This one was simpler. http://www.thecityedition.com/Pages/Archive/2010/Cataclysms.html Yes, they were extinction level events. It has been suggested that they were the reason so few human remains have been found for this time period. There were also catastrophic comet impacts 4000 years ago but not to the same extent. This is also interesting. http://blog.world-mysteries.com/science/360-days-ancient-calendar/
It would seem to me that you base your opinions an very limited knowledge and thus it is equally limited.
What do you mean "limited"? You are apparently missing the entire point or we are talking about different things here. I am trying to show that the movement of continents and other Earth changes was not always slow. Along with that comes other relevant information.
Though tectonic movement may be in the thousnans of year time frame..it is not in geological time. The San Andreas moves every single year..but by centimeters...it took many millions of years for Pangea to break apart...sorry if I accept hundreds of opinions from people that spend lifetimes in study over a guy on an internet forum.
So you don't think a cosmic cataclysm of such major proportions would make any difference? Again - you didn't look at the link which is loaded with geological observations. And these are not my "opinions". Here's another link saying the same thing in fewer words. http://www.knowth.com/sacred-geography-1.htm What might these calamities be which Plato's Egyptian informants are referring to? Evidence has accumulated from a variety of scientific disciplines which demonstrate that a massive cosmic object (probably a portion of an astronomically-near supernova explosion) passed close by the earth in approximately 9500 BC. This cosmic event caused a worldwide cataclysm of enormous proportions, including massive shifting of the earth's surface, devastating volcanic activity, mega-tsunami waves, subsidence of regional landmasses, and mass extinctions of both animals and humans. In this regard it is vitally important to note that many of the geological and biological effects previously attributed to the hypothesized glacier movements of ice age times could NOT have been caused by the slow movement of ice but were in fact caused by the rapid and vast displacement of oceanic bodies of water (this being caused by the irresistible gravitational pull of the enormous cosmic object passing by the earth). Additionally, the species-wide animal extinctions caused by this event occurred far beyond the geographical boundaries set for the 'Ice Age glaciations' by orthodox theorists. The shifting of the earth's surface, termed crustal displacement by its primary theorist, Charles Hapgood, was also studied by Einstein who reported, "One can hardly doubt that significant shifts of the earth's crusts have taken place repeatedly and within a short time."
1) There is no geological evidence that such an event occurred. 2) There is no evidence at all that a massive die off and extinction event happened in the time frame you propose....and this proposed event would have likely killed many humans and animals. 3) A localized Supernova would not cause geological shift on our planet as the primary effects would be invisible and deadly to ALL life on Earth...the effects would be noted to this day if we even survived as a species. We would also see the remnants of the star that exploded.
I guess you didn't look at the links. There is evidence all over the world. Here are the links again. Actually you would do well to search it yourself. EVIDENCE is on this link: http://chapmanresearch.org/PDF/Glacial Cataclysm.pdf And here are more: http://www.thecityedition.com/Pages/Archive/2010/Cataclysms.html http://abob.libs.uga.edu/bobk/ccc/ce102899.html http://blog.world-mysteries.com/science/360-days-ancient-calendar/ http://sacred-texts.com/atl/rag/index.htm http://blog.world-mysteries.com/science/360-days-ancient-calendar/ http://www.pnas.org/content/104/41/16016.full.pdf+html You can resize the PDF window on this one. http://www.well.com/~mcdee/Catastrophe.html http://personal.eunet.fi/pp/tilmari/ http://www.pibburns.com/catastro/clubenap.htm
Martin Gray is an anthropologist and photographer ... and very much out of date.. He's over a hundred years behind in his science.
The paper in the link you provide contains speculation on mountain building and plate uplift during the plastoscene epoch and says nothing about plate tectonics or the silliness you propose as to recent formation of the continents, nor does it deal with your supernova idiocy.
Well, Galileo and Copernicus are older than that. Is their info much out of date too and therefore to be tossed out?
Starting on page 22 of that article. "Additions to this list include several types of elephants, including the mammoth and the mastodon, super bison and horse, as well as brush, stumps, moss and freshwater molluscs. Hibben described these deposits in very similar language: In many places, Alaskan muck is packed with animal bones and debris in trainload lots. Bones of mammoths, mastodons, several kinds of bison, horses, wolves, bears, and lions tell a story of a fauna population... within this frozen mass lie the twisted parts of animals and trees intermingled with lenses of ice and layers of peat and mosses. It looks as though in the midst of some cataclysmic catastrophe of ten thousand years ago the whole Alaskan world of living animals and plants was suddenly frozen in mid-motion in a grim charade." I had quoted some of this previously.
As it seems very clear that you either do not wish to provide evidence of your suppositions or do not quite understand what that evidence might entail I believe we are done here.
What exactly type of evidence do you expect? I have given multiple links. I have posted excerpts discussing the evidence. I just do not know what else to show you. You leave me feeling that we are not speaking the same language. - - - Updated - - - [video=youtube;VoSbF1EbOFM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoSbF1EbOFM[/video]
Maybe instead of Nibiru and the Annunaki it was Vulcan (originally noted by Madame Blavatsky) kicking loose the storms of comets roughly every 4700 years or so. It's a neat but unconfirmed idea. Sometimes these seers should not be casually dismissed. http://www.barry.warmkessel.com/ATLANTIS.html#e Seriously, the Younger Drias seemed to have been triggered by a series of impacts between 10,900 and 10,500 BC, but the area directly affected was transcontinental but not global as shown by the YD boundary field depiction. http://www.barry.warmkessel.com/4related.html#a3 The 9600 BC impact may have been more severe. It gouged out the Carolina bays. The downplaying of ice age deformation is a controversy that needs to be sorted out. Let the chips fall where they may. No doubt something drastic and sudden happened way back then. In different parts of the world, megalithic activity halted in its tracks, e.g. words were being chiseled out on stone when the workers dropped their tools and never returned to the task at Machu Pichu if I correctly recall the location. Lake Titikaka is a few thousand feet above sea level but has some living species from the time of its salt water connection. Some rock cliffs on the northeastern coast of North America closely match their counterparts on the coast of Europe (Great Britain I think), but it's too much of a stretch to say that the continental gaps that split up Pangea did so mostly by rapid jerks instead of cumulative inching movements over eons. The notion that most mountain ranges are pushed up much faster than the orthodoxy accepts is also controversial but not as radical as long distance high speed continental drift. None of this seems to have much bearing on the OP.
Also, it is claimed that a large body passing near the earth could easily cause a tidal wave 300 times that made by our moon, thus pulling water up high enough to top all or most of the highest mountain peaks.
