Is Fauci the Patron Saint of health or the Antichrist of a worldwide plague?

Trump did nothing but tweet, whine and steal money. You actually think Trump was anything but clueless ? The guy was never interested in being briefed on anything. Consequently, he knew nothing. HTF can anyone explain his idiotic claims. Let’s all get real about Trump.

 

Sorry this is too complicated for you. John Hopkins, the CDC, the WHO all understand quarantine. Anyone who self quarantines is not exposed to the pathogen. Period.

 

Democrats said it was when Trump ordered the COVID travel bans. Peloisi even went to China Town to tell people there's nothing wrong and Trump is a racist.

 

Biden doesn't even know who he appointed. He appointed who he was told to appoint.

 

Well, we were told that everyone at the Obama birthday bash was safe because they were a sophisticated crowd. So I guess it discriminates by both class and one's politics.

 

I’ve clearly stated twice quarantine is isolation. There is no reason to test someone who has been self quarantined. They have been in isolation and not exposed to the pathogen.

It’s very simple. If I am self quarantined (isolated) I am not exposed to SARS-CoV-2. Others who are self quarantined are not exposed to the virus either. All you need to know to determine if someone is potentially infected or not is their self quarantine status.

I do not pretend. From the middle of February 2020 until late July 2020 I did not hang out with anyone not also self quarantined. In the fall of 2020 I self quarantined again until Spring of 2021. I am again self quarantined now. When I was not self quarantined I used masks as appropriate on the very rare occasions I interacted with others.

There is no woo woo. Just principles of epidemiology used to my benefit and the benefit of others.

Please don’t misrepresent my posts. I clearly stated twice quarantine is isolation. Here are the quotes again.

 

You several times referred to not being around people who are infected because you used “ science” . Tell us all how you know who is infected without testing. Without continual testing, it’s a farce thinking you are the expert on who is or not infected. It’s woo woo. Using science sounding vocabulary does not make it true. Your posts are those of a science denier couched in woo woo.

 

He enacted travel bans that were not consistent. The courts call that discrimination. That’s why his bans were not all constitutional and not based upon science. Maybe that slipped your memory

 

Trump doesn’t even know how the gov works.

 

That’s not all you said. You said you don’t associate with people who are infected. HTF do you know who is infected without testing ? Magic ?

 

This perfectly illustrates why Trump got elected and probably will again.

 

I have explained it in detail. When an individual is self quarantined they are isolated from anyone who is potentially infected. If you are not interacting with infected individuals, it is virtually impossible to be infected. This is so simple people figured it out before they even knew what a virus was.

 

Anyone who has been self quarantined is not infected. There is no way they can be infected because they have been isolated away from the potentially infected population. There is no point in testing someone who has been self quarantined. Individuals who self quarantine can associate amongst themselves. It’s the whole point of quarantine. Why do you think we tried stay at home orders and lockdowns? Why does Australia do lockdowns? It’s all based on the principle of quarantine. And it’s the most effective mitigation.

Quarantine is not woo woo. It’s just a fact. If you are not exposed to a pathogen it can’t infect you. Very simple.

On testing. Testing is not a very good way to determine if someone is infected. When an individual is infected and presymptomatic the chance of a PCR test returning a positive result is well under 50%. When symptoms appear the odds of returning a positive test increase to somewhere in the 80% range. Depending on testing to know who is infected is not smart.

My fully vaccinated father in law is currently hospitalized with Covid. He has been symptomatic for two weeks. He was admitted to hospitals twice, tested repeatedly at those hospitals and at clinics over that two weeks period without returning a positive test. After his third hospitalization with a blood oxygen level of 70 he finally tested positive for Covid. Anyone who still believes PCR testing is a good way to determine if someone is infected with SARS-CoV-2 is a fool. It’s the best we have today, but it’s not very effective at identifying active infections and contagious individuals. I’ll stick with self quarantine for now. But we will likely all be infected at some point. It’s now the world we live in. It’s time to start facing facts my friend.

 

I have heard no science and a lot of woo woo. I don’t believe you have been in quarantine for two years. I also don’t believe you have a magic way of determining who is infected and who isn’t.

 

There is no detail in your bloviation.
That’s a lot of hogwash. You keep saying that quarantine means you aren’t around infected individuals. Quanatine means you aren’t around ANYONE who isn’t heavily guarded by space and masking. You are so poorly informed it’s obvious.

For the at least 3 rd time, you keep mistaking what isolation is. You keep saying it’s isolation from infected people. No, it’s isolation from everyone. You still can’t tell us how you know when people are infection free. More woo woo.

 

That’s because 40% of the population is illiterate when it comes to civics.

 

Civics don't have much to do with the way this government has developed.

 

Seriously. Doesn’t sound like you know what civics is.

 

Clearly quarantine is beyond your comprehension. You are free to believe what you want but I don’t fabricate anything for PF. What I post is my real life. I have little need or desire to be in public in normal times and am mostly self sufficient. Self quarantine was easier and more pleasant than dealing with nuts who don’t wear proper masks and think PCR testing can accurately determine if one is contagious or not.

There is no magic way to know who’s potentially infected. But by applying principles of epidemiology you can easily determine those who are not potentially infected.

 

I’m quite well informed. I’ve made a lot of money putting the principles of quarantine to work in my profession for over 20 years. I well understand what isolation is. I was not around anyone who was not also self quarantined.

Self quarantined individuals are infection free. That’s the point of quarantine. Keeping people away from pathogens. Individuals who have been isolated can associate with one another because neither have been exposed to the pathogen. If you aren’t exposed to the pathogen you can’t be infected.

Quarantine is not woo woo. It’s the best way to prevent infection and spread of infectious disease.

 

That’s not what you said. You claim you quarantine yourself by staying away from infected persons. How can you tell who is infected and who is not. It’s amazing how you can claim you only are around un infected people. What do you do, follow them around all day ? You’re claims are all anti science and fraudulent and really quite bogus. This is the fifth t8me I’ve asked the question. How can you tell who is infected and who isn’t ?

 

I only associated with people who were also self quarantined.

 

How is that ? You keep throwing out “principles of epidemiology” and you can’t even provide an answer to a simple question. “ not potentially infected” sounds like a lot of crappolla.

 

That’s ridiculous. What, you have a little clan of loners who all live together and order out for pizza and peanut butter sandwiches…..cause that’s all they can fit under the door. .