Is the Bible pure myth, pure truth, or a blend?

We have to recognize, and I think respect, the power of a "myth" that has guided, inspired and sustained the Jewish people for over 3,000 years. They are attuned to something I can't detect, but they aren't all of them psychopaths or idiots. There is something real and legitimate at the bottom of their religion, what exactly I don't know.

It's the same for good Christians. I go through the motions, but I don't have faith. Not really. Still, I envy and respect those who do.

 

Actually I’m all for what you refer to with power and inspiration, but Christianity has degenerated as predicted into a legalistic cult. It was supposed to be for spiritual inspiration and guidance in seeking “Christ within” but it has gradually become a cult in which fantastic mythic concepts are taken as historic and literal fact, and that kills all the spiritual power of it. Christians typically think that if they mechanically do what they think the bible say to do, Jesus will approve and step in to save them from themselves. It’s insane!

The rule is, you are what you seek, only you don’t know who you are! -yet.

 

Well, I don't know that Christianity is fairly to blame for distortions and perversions of Christ's teachings. If you strip away what doesn't belong, you still are left with something, and we can only call it "Christianity."

I attended a very small Mennonite service out of curiosity, and I detected no degeneration at all. Of course, I can only guess at this, as I was not a first hand witness to the sermon on the mount.

 

Wherever you go in the Christian world, whatever you find in any organized religion is the same degenerated form of ignorance of the original meaning and purpose. And that is just about unavoidable since the bible intentionally conceals the “meat of the word” behind a veil of symbols, metaphors, and allegories. It is so difficult to “reason out” that the standard response of to just take it literally, like believing that “I am the way” means Jesus is the way and so we must hope he saves us. It’s just too damned hard to grasp that Jesus wasn’t Jesus, but the biblical “Christ”. And then from there to realize that I am Christ-in-me. But only when mind, and all you think you are is overcome and GONE.

Hinduism and a few other religions are very direct about this.

 

If a 'believer" was to lavish quotes from the Bible like that.....he would be accused of being a Bible thumper. But when a Universalist selectively does it in order to discredit the Word of God it is to be accepted?
Of course everything quoted is Truth. I particularly like "2nd Timothy 2:11-12 - "Here is a trustworthy saying: If we died with him, we will also live with him; if we endure, we will also reign with him”
Universalist have a hard time admitting Jesus "reigns". He made us "joint heirs" and that is why "believers" reign with him.

 

Death is not literal death, it is the death of the ego, and embracing Christ consciousness. That is what is meant about living with him. When you ignore the ego and embrace Christ consciousness, you are "living with him", as god is all that truly exists. There is no literal death involved, and Jesus has no interest in "reigning" over anything. He brought his message to us to free us from tyranny, not to lord over us. Reigning over the masses is what the church and the government that use it as a tool do.

 

Ya just GOTTA find something to bitch about even if you agree with the words that were said. Such intolerance! The “trademark” of the right.

Yet you don’t know what “circumcision of the heart” means.

I’m not a Universalist, and I am not trying to “discredit the Word of God”. I’m discrediting YOU for not understanding your own bible!!!! And you prove it by not answering that question: what is “the circumcision of the heart?”.

 

Talk about intolerance. It's your way or the highway. I have been in the Body of Christ for many years. Folks of many many denominations and we all come together as a Body of One on the fundamentals of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. You obviously have no part in it. I'm sure you have some that follow you....but I am done with this!

 

When Jesus asked Peter "who do you say I am?" He got the correct answer. I'll leave it there. You and Kode are on the same page.

 

Keep making it up!

Slogans don’t require nor indicate understanding.

Sure. So normal to run when you run out of solid principles based on fact. Thanks for announcing that you have no idea what the meaning of your bible is (“circumcision of the heart”). But parroting verses and ready-made slogans should do the trick.

 

All relgion is stupid, and those who follow them are weak. But I do believe that the books try to explain some historicle events as best as they could to their understanding.

 

Secular humanism is stupid.....would you agree?

 

everything is stupid… nothing is stupid. It just depends on where an individual spark of consciousness is in its journey of experience.

 

Stupid and ultimately self-destructive.

 

And that is why

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Now more than ever.


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The Bible is an ancient ethnocentric Middle Eastern Jewish religious fairytale that is full of racism and bigotry toward non-Jews. It says that the Jews are the premier ethnic group on the planet and everyone else is like spit.

The more secular books do contain some useful advice on how to live a "good" life but the religious parts are 100% BS. When the writers wrote it they included countless clues that it was just an elaborate hoax and shouldn't be taken seriously. But people love the sound of the words "god" and "Bible" and treat them as something magical. It is on a par with all of the other fairytales and fictional stories that have been told throughout the ages.

 

You don't know how wrong you are. Living in the comfortable world created by the Judeo/Christian theology and worldview you naively assume you can throw away what's been built over the centuries by better wiser men and replace it, with what? You'll end up with the French Revolution on a global scale. Have a little humility and understand the consequences of hubris.

 

Looking back at history, didn't the Jews help the Moors invade Spain and fight on their side for over 780 years against the Christians? Didn't the Jews start communism and overthrow the Russian government in WWI and aren't they still running the Russian government at this very second? The head of the Russian propaganda arm is a Jew. The guy who is behind the Ukrainian invasion and the various conflicts in Africa is a Jew. Jewish oligarchs fund and support Putin. And we all know how much trouble the commies have caused the world. All of that turmoil and destruction can be laid rightfully at their feet. It's historical fact.

 

You speak wisdom far beyond any on this thread!

 

I would not agree.

I dont know about you, but I certainly dont need some invisible sky daddy peaking over my shoulder in order to do the rightg thing.

Anyone who does isnt really a good person to begin wit now are they?

If the only reason you do good deeds is because you think god sees you and judges you, and not because its the right thing to do, you are in fact, a complete and total scum bag.

 

So you prefer an elitist government type to control your thoughts, future and purpose. I prefer my "sky daddy" that is true, and Holy over you elitist that know what is best for everyone else. Perhaps you'd settle for more Stalin's, Hitler's.....or even more up to date Al Gore's who gather power to themselves preaching Climate fear while they transverse the planet on private jets. Yes you may feel wise in your own eyes but you fail again and again!

The right thing to do????? I suppose you determine what that is!

 

You hang a lot of guilt on Jews. Now do secularists, who spent the entire last century trying to eliminate Jews from the face of the earth.

 

After I reread the OP it dawned on me..... unbelievers always invent bigger miracles to disprove the actual miracles of God. In the 2nd Chapter of Acts for instance, the gathered believers (and there were a great many mostly Galileans) began praising God in unknown tongues after the Spirit of God descended upon them. Travelers heard them speaking in their native languages and were amazed. Unbelievers explained it away as they were just "drunk"!.....and at 9 in the morning to boot!

 

Near death experiencer Dr. Kevin Zadai was shown that Moses was given the five first books of the Bible by angels.....
and Moses was responsible to write those books in such a way that computer geniuses in our time period would be utterly astonished by
how there are hidden levels of meaning hidden within hidden levels of meaning in sentences that seem rather simple on first reading.



Gregg Braden - What is The Bible Code?... The Science & The Prophecies


Something else that is astonishing about the Bible is that the original Hebrew, Greek, Aramaic and Chaldean writings will fit with an infinite number of fulfillments of Ezekiel chapter thirty seven which fits with Applied Multiverse Theory............ that is not exactly a simple thing to do even for a YHWH that is infinitely ancient and has essentially unlimited technological capability.

In my opinion the following article is truly brilliant....

https://near-death.com/future/