ISIL, what to do?

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  1. One Mind

    One Mind Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We need to involve ourselves in much more than just the middle east. We need to impose our will upon every nation on earth, tell all of those nations how to run things to suit us. And if they don't like it and cause us some trouble for our interference, well that isn't our fault and we are as innocent as babies. If we do this right we could implode from our national debt within a couple years and speed up our demise to its logical conclusion given the attitude that our rulers and oligarchs have. We could crash and burn so much sooner and get it over with .
     
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    I know it's not necessarily a popular solution, but the U.S. needs to launch a full scale offensive against ISIL. Yes, that means boots on the ground, drones in the sky, increasing oil prices, you get the point. That is the only way to stop them, and essentially protect the United States and European nations, not to mention the innocent people in the middle east stuck in the middle of all this. We waited around as AL QAEDA got larger and more financially supported, and look what happened. 9/11. We allowed the Taliban to grow stronger after their successful repelling of the Soviet Union, and it made Afghanistan an even larger hellhole. We have two choices here. America gets involved completely and annihilates ISIL while we still have the power too, or we wait around until they attack some European city or launch a terrorist attack against the U.S. and we get another 9/11. Then, everyone will want to go to war, but it will be too late. In order to save lives in the future, America has to act now.
     
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    Saudi Arabia has been imprisoning men who return from fighting in Syria and Iraq as well as freezing the assets of anyone funding ISIL for many months.
     
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    The opposite is true.. by lowering oil prices to $78 per barrel... OPEC has hurt ISIL, Iran and Russia because Iran's lift cost break even point is $140 a barrel and Russia's is $100 a barrel... ISIL is controlling about 10% of Iraqi oil production and that production is way down.
     
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    In order to come up with a solution, there needs to be a problem involving the national security of the US. ISIL is a threat to Iraq and Syria, and perhaps a threat in some way to the Saudis. And there are plenty of people in Iraq, Arabia and the Syrian regime to take care of ISIL. Or, we could expend our lives and treasure by doing their fighting, and spending our money for them and on them. No sir, we cannot afford it. Our own house is weak, in disorder, and this only distracts us from our own work here at home.

    Those people in the middle east need to be allowed to solve their own problems, and then whatever that solution turns out to be will have a chance of being in place and solving some of the problems that is created the fighting over there today. Then if some state arises over there, that comes after the US, we can wage a real war, and turn that state back into nothing but sand and debris. An imploded state is then no longer a threat to the US.

    For if we are gonna fight every radical group that will arise in the middle east, and are trying to take land for their own state, we will implode from the debt this causes. Let them fight it out, them them kill one another, as we sit and cheer them on. Cheer on both sides. Let them do our killing for us, thereby reducing their numbers.

    If you really love your nation you will not want her involved in innumerable wars for it weakens this nation, by the debt it creates and strangles the people with rising taxation.
     
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    Kill all terrorists with any and all means at our disposal.
     

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