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Islam & Christianity the same tradition ?

Discussion in 'Religion & Philosophy' started by Aleksander Ulyanov, Jun 29, 2019.

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  1. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Islam is A SEPERATION FROM Judaism long before Christianity. Mormonism departs from the Christian Faith at least 1900 years after Jesus.
     
    yabberefugee, Jan 4, 2020
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  2. WillReadmore

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    Two way street?

    Your piece proposes childish passive aggressive garbage.

    All that accomplishes is clarifying who you are.
     
    WillReadmore, Jan 4, 2020
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  3. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Perhaps Catholics.....Christians worship a God/Man that came down from the cross and rose to life!
     
    yabberefugee, Jan 4, 2020
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  4. Goomba

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    Still, nothing to do with strict Islamic monotheism, where God is One, end of.
     
    Goomba, Jan 4, 2020
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  5. WillReadmore

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    Your timeline is clearly in error.
     
    WillReadmore, Jan 4, 2020
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  6. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Mono theism.....that is where the resemblance ends. In Mormonism, anyone can become a god if they jump through the right hoops.
     
    yabberefugee, Jan 4, 2020
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    Of course you would say that. When people come to the USA it is their job to assimilate to us, not the opposite. Islam is not a religion but a political ideology.
     
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  8. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The separation actually began with Ishmael. Mohammed regressed to that time. Formerly, Islam came after Christianity. No errors.
     
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  9. FatBack

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    Go cry to someone else about it, your opinion is worthless.
     
    FatBack, Jan 4, 2020
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  10. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I would say it is a religion used for political purpose apart from faith.
     
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    They may very well be correct in their beliefs, if they are referring to the spiritual elevation of an individual.
     
    Goomba, Jan 4, 2020
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    No, Islam is certainly a religion. Political Ideologies don’t have things like faith in the Unseen; God-consciousness; and the purification of the soul...which is all part of Islam.

    Your knowledge of Islam is based on obscure articles written by nobodys on the internet. It’s time to expand your horizons!
     
    Goomba, Jan 4, 2020
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  13. yabberefugee

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    Theirs is a denial of Jesus and who he claimed to be.
     
    yabberefugee, Jan 4, 2020
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    Muslims believe in Jesus too, and all three religions believe in the same God, the same Mary, same Moses, the list goes on
     
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    As opposed to childish passive aggrssion?
     
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    Your opinion of what I know of Islam, is written by some guy on the internet. And it's "nobodies".
     
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    He probably is given Mormons believe Christ to be the son of god while Islam claims Christ is just a self proclaimef prophet like Mohammed

    There is nothing Christ like with Mohammed for he is antithetical to what Christ taught is more similar to an older Judaism back when Judaism was a tribe killing and conquering other people and religions

    Christ took man on a different course. Islam stole Judaism and put an arab spin on it. Mohammed wanted to make Arabs god's chosen people . To make Arabs and Islam more important than the other two.
     
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    They refuse to believe Christ was the son of god sent by god to reveal the way and means of salvation. That all humans by a rebirth can be sons of God.

    To Muslims christ was just a prophet like Mohammed.
     
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    Islam like Judaism don't believe god can live in a human once the spiritual rebirth, salvation transpires.

    Christ was the example that god can reside in a body of flesh once purified by the rebirth of consciousness.
     
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    No Muhammad / Quaran came about in 600 AC

    The Quran mentions the bible, Jesus the bible doesn't mention the Quran or Muhammad

    The bible was canonized around 300 AC

    It just like joesph smith in LDS who I will never get was killed with his brother in in Illinois.
     
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    Youre wrong , they think Muhammad and LDS joesph Smith was a prophet like Paul in the new testament.

    Muhammad rode on a horse in the sky

    Joesph Smith of America god spoke to him in the woods


    Paul of the new testament crucified the Christian's and jews till god spoke to him

    Paul wrote at least 3/4 of the new testament, and I know for a fact Priscilla wrote hebrews.
     
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    We believe that Jesus was a significant prophet, yes. But Christians take a step further and claim Jesus was God. No, as far Islam is concerned, God is One; God is eternal; and God is as God is- period.
     
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    As far as Islam is concerned, Jesus is an example of what happens when mankind mistakes a highly elevated spirit for divinity itself. In other words, Jesus was very highly developed in spirit (and thus could do things like walk on water); but that doesn’t mean anybody else can’t elevate their own spirit- of course not to the same degree as Jesus and the other prophets.
     
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    agree, they believe in the same God, the same Jesus, the same Mary, ect... they just tell part 2 of the story different
     
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    totally agree, but the characters are the same in both stories
     
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